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hullphil

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#1
17/02/2019 at 09:44

Anyone else think Cardiff's behaviour in this tragedy is disingenuous....

They'd have played him without hesitation, but to try and wriggle out now stinks IMHO....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsn ews/article-6713003/Help-avoid-Emiliano-S ala-payment-Cardiff-seek-Premier-League-c lubs-advice.html

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essexgull

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17/02/2019 at 14:54

Would you still pay for a car if the dealer crashed it on the way delivering it to you?

I am guessing that the insurance pay-out on the player doesn't cover the broker fees, which are probably half of the £15 million, and this is what Cardiff are disputing paying. Doesn't sound as outrageous as Cardiff refusing to pay Nantes for a deceased player so the media don't report it as such.



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potential

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17/02/2019 at 14:56

The legal profession will make money from this. Nantes wanting payment and Cardiff refusing, or trying to find a way not to pay, will inevitably finds its way to the courts. If on the day of the flight Sala was registered with Cardiff, then he was a Cardiff player? If not registered?

Any recoverable monies will revolve around any insurance in place for the flight. A flight conducted by a Scunthorpe based gas fitter in an American registered aeroplane and arranged/organised by who?

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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17/02/2019 at 17:01

From what I have read in the Asian press....

Insurance pays a maximum of £16m. All sweet you’d think, however, Cardiff are liable for the whole of Salas contract, agents payments and there are 5 - yes, fookin 5! agents in the chain and all the legals.

Apparently the bill will be north of £30m, hence the inertia by the Cardiff Blues/Reds. So much for Tan being a wealthy philanthropist eh.

There’s a stink here and it’s likely to expose how the grubby world of transfers is conducted, like we don’t know. the agent McKay lied about other clubs being interested in Sala to bump the price and, of course, fees.

I hope Cardiff tell em all to fuck off by Warnock is up to his neck in it as well so the likely outcome is a bunch of brown envelopes.

Shit innit. 

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hullphil

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#5
17/02/2019 at 20:28

That's not what happened though.... Contract was signed, player unveiled and some dispute about who arranged the flight, but it wasn't Nantes (the Car Dealer)....

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Would you still pay for a car if the dealer crashed it on the way delivering it to you?

I am guessing that the insurance pay-out on the player doesn't cover the broker fees, which are probably half of the £15 million, and this is what Cardiff are disputing paying. Doesn't sound as outrageous as Cardiff refusing to pay Nantes for a deceased player so the media don't report it as such.



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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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05/03/2019 at 00:12

McKay the agent isn’t even an agent. Wants £1.5m for fees for a player who was worth £5m but Cardiff shelled out £15m. Shades of Phil n Paul buying Kamil Ghilas and Zayatte (before he went to arsenal or somat).

They will brush it under the carpet as usual though. Why kill the golden goose for a bit of integrity?

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NationalTiger

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#7
14/03/2019 at 06:35

Kamil Ghilas, though. 

Now then... 

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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18/03/2019 at 06:06

Last time I was in Hull we were a bit peckish so went to Bun in Oven, just in case ?Michael Owen was there too.

Guess who served us? Yup, Kamil Ghilas. He had brown shoes on and a salmon pullover around his shoulders. 

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KingstonKid

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#9
18/03/2019 at 08:18

He was like a fish out of water 

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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30/03/2019 at 23:00

Reading the pilot only had a cycling proficiency test as a qualification, not the night flying ticket as required. Story not finished by a long run. 

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NationalTiger

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#11
31/03/2019 at 16:00

Aye.

Who hired the pilot, though? 

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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01/04/2019 at 03:25

indeed. Looks like the insurance won’t pay now.

The Prem will be working overtime to keep it under the radar (no pun intended), just like the Duffen affair. 

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potential

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01/04/2019 at 16:13

Ownership and operation of an aeroplane can be, and often is, separate third parties. The owner of this most expensive of big boys toys may seek to recover costs through hiring it out. Aeroplane inspections have both a flying hour and a calendar limit. Whichever comes soonest. The insurance companies will need this resolving, are the owner and operator one and the same or not.

Group sharing is another way to share costs of ownership. The fixed costs, insurance, inspections and maintenance, hangerage or parking fees are evenly split. The group member pays the costs for his flight, fuel, landing and handling charges and if required a pilot.

Ah yes, the pilot. Only holders of a commercial license may receive payment, and also while flying under the auspices of a CAA issued AOC. Air Operators Certificate. (Note, not owner. Operator). In the absence of an AOC a way round this is for the pilot to receive expenses for matters relating to the flight. Obtaining weather, preparing paperwork, refuelling, even cleaning. This practise is as old as flying itself. Despite clamp downs by the CAA it continued. Thus was born the cost sharing scheme, were the pilot paid a fair share of the costs for that flight. But, it has to be for the benefit or purpose of the pilot. A gas fitter flying to France to fix a boiler is acceptable. Routing via Cardiff raises eyebrows.

All commercial pilots undergo six mothly base checks. An air taxi firm will use the aeroplane itself, with screens fitted in the cockpit removing visual clues except the flight instruments. Airlines use simulators, always in night time conditions.

Commercial pilots must hold a Class 1 medical. Colour blindness is a fail for this.

Irrespective of the legal niceties surrounding every flight, there is the unwritten first law of aviation. Landing is mandatory, take off is not. He broke it. 

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