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hullphil

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#1
05/02/2019 at 14:11

Apparently, one with money to spend didn't like customers expressing their dissatisfaction....

Makes you think that we probably did them a favour then, because if they were put off by sponge balls, how'd they feel about anything more substantial??  

Keep it, don't hoof it... 

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NationalTiger

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#2
05/02/2019 at 19:24

Bullshit.

The Allam bullshit-o-meter strikes yet again.

The ball protest was 13 months AFTER the Chinese bid failed.

On the fit and proper (ha!) test.

The lies and misconstrued truth never ends with these jokers. 

Now then... 

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hullphil

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#3
05/02/2019 at 21:26

Allam's usual stance.... If you've nothing even remotely plausible to explain your situation, then blame the fans....

Even his own words suggest those against him are small in number, so why then would a bidder be put off by a handful of people....

He's a snake....  

Keep it, don't hoof it... 

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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08/02/2019 at 13:25

I read a bit of this but as it’s on the HDM I limited it to the headlines.

The chap is being a bit disingenuous. No fees, no salary for him and Ehab. Guess not when it’s a few mill in loans via the interest payments. If they paid it in equity, no FFP regs but no income. Ahhhh, maybe they thought of that, whadya think?

Then there is the money laundering from Egypt. (Allegedly) you get 60 cents on the dollar, so if £100m went in via “other sources” they would have cashed in by about £40m. Nice.

£80m with loans, £50m with less loans. Hmmm. Eat your own shit or drink your own sick.

Etc, etc.

Not everything they did was shite. There was no queue at the KC stadium to give Bartlett his pound coin. They didn’t do it for the football though, they tried to shake the council down for the Freehold and why Burns etc don’t fron that is beyond me. Euro grants etc made it all free for them, no risk. Some old geezer off OPE in a suspect cardigan pissed on their chips. The rest is Hull Tigers.

He backed Bruce, bought Pizza. Ben Afur is Light years away from taking Liam Ridgewell on a 3 month pay as you play agreement, even though he didn’t work out too well.

Even though they don’t understand the game they understand how it ticks now and they know full well the Prem is out of their zone. £50m isn’t going to work either.

Plan B is now to wait till the summer, not sign anyone and then walk away. I got it wrong, I was sure they would fold once they banked the parachute money. I think they still will, but maybe Bowen is the new Maguire. No relegation, new badge. What’s not to like?

At least Duffend is not the new head teacher. Negredo will miss the weekend fun though. 

Bunkers Hill - See you in the next life 

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Driff_Tiger

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#5
09/02/2019 at 06:58

Can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth. And that's not an opinion, it's substantiated time and time again by hard facts, some of which are explained by a few above.
Liar, arrogant, deluded, spiteful twat. Besides that, he's ok.
And £50mill ffs.
Not sure about this plan B of walking away in summer. He seems obsessed with getting his gift money back. That ain't going to happen, now or in summer. Probably means he'll cash in on anything sellable. I remain convinced that the only reason Bowen and Grosicki are still with us is because nobody came in with a firm serious offer during January. Nobody will pay what he's asking, and as I understand it, the losses will increase? A bit of a catch 22 for him - losing money but not able to get anything like what he ridiculously wants for the club. So will he really just walk away? A highly unlikely promotion is the only way out for him, but then greed and ego would probably kick in again. I guess he could sell everything he can in summer, then walk away, but then that would be seen as an about turn - and he never goes back on his word, never.
Maybe Brexit isn't such a mess after all  

The fish rots from the head #AllamOut 

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Obadiah

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09/02/2019 at 08:25

We'll soon know how much they took out this season when Allamhouse's accounts are published. If Assem Allam is correct they will have taken £16 million out of the club to reduce their debt to £50 million. A quarter of that £16 million spent on players at the beginning of the season could have seen us in the play-off places and possibly looking at automatic promotion.

If we don't get promotion £50 million is a high price to pay for a mid-table championship club with hardly any first team players.

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essexgull

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09/02/2019 at 08:58

I'm sure I wrote of this back in November. Duffen's buyers didn't want to pay anything immediately for the club and buy off the Allans post purchase with some of the last parachute payment. The Allans demanded £25 mill for the sale, not the £50 he mentions now.

Anyhow, the man is either a fantasist or a liar, most probably both. He doesn't need to be hard questioned by an investigative reporter as he repeatedly damns himself by his own words. Hard to see how a ball protest could have scared off Chinese buyers when it was a year after the Ehab declared that the Chinese had pulled out.

Lies after lies after lies. There is no point him being interviewed or debated with, just ignored.


ESSEX GULL  

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NationalTiger

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09/02/2019 at 09:27

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 09/02/2019 at 08:25
We'll soon know how much they took out this season when Allamhouse's accounts are published. If Assem Allam is correct they will have taken £16 million out of the club to reduce their debt to £50 million. A quarter of that £16 million spent on players at the beginning of the season could have seen us in the play-off places and possibly looking at automatic promotion.

If we don't get promotion £50 million is a high price to pay for a mid-table championship club with hardly any first team players.


And no assets. Or a ground. Or even a freehold. 

Now then... 

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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09/02/2019 at 14:17

Just to clarify, even though it is what I wrote, I didn’t mean walk away without collecting a bag full of money, I meant leave after mopping it all up with the sale of any players such as Bowen.

I also agree that I doubt a firm bid was received for either Grosicki or Bowen. Talk of £20m is a stretch but stoke paid half of that for Vokes, so it shows how stupid football clubs can be.

Repeat.... £50m for Hull City is a laugh, even with a new badge. 

Bunkers Hill - See you in the next life 

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hullphil

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#10
09/02/2019 at 17:42

Where's he get the valuation from....

No one will pay that, so is it really up for sale?

Keep it, don't hoof it... 

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Longrakingballs

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09/02/2019 at 19:04

Tonto say man from hot country speak with fork tongue.  

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NationalTiger

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#12
10/02/2019 at 08:38

Quote Quote by hullphil on 09/02/2019 at 17:42
Where's he get the valuation from....

No one will pay that, so is it really up for sale?


That sounds like a penny dropping... 

Now then... 

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Driff_Tiger

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10/02/2019 at 10:13

Quote Quote by hullphil on 09/02/2019 at 17:42
Where's he get the valuation from....

No one will pay that, so is it really up for sale?


It's not a valuation Phil.
It's his take on what he's still owed (for the gift).
Along with the claim that neither he nor Ehab has had a penny from the club, it's all utter BS.

The fish rots from the head #AllamOut 

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Obadiah

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10/02/2019 at 10:19

If Assem Allam is telling the truth about the level of debt and that all he wants is his debt repaying then he is owed £50 million by Hull City. The problem for him is he hasn't got a clue how to get it back other than hoping for promotion.

If we don't get promoted, next season will be the first since he bought the club, without any Premier League money. He will be solely reliant on the TV money, the sponsors and the supporters. After inheriting a promising young team under Nigel Pearson and spending half a billion pounds Assem Allam once again preside over a City team without a full set of first team players.

Unfortunately the Allams are going to be owners for a very long time. 

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KingstonKid

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#15
10/02/2019 at 15:28

But just tot up this "sleeping" potential valuation of players, this realisation on the back of our recent run coupled with the often inflated values these days.

Reece Burke,
Seldom gets mentioned, I would see that he is one gem of a player with a very good future ahead of him.
He will no doubt have interest from other clubs in the summer.
Given his progress this season and his future potential also, I wouldn't sell him for any less than £10 million.

Jordy De Wijs
Despite a shaky and uncertain start, he's come on leaps and bounds. We miss him very much.
If Scott McKenna is valued at £8 million these days, then my valuation wouldn't be much less than that for the Dutchman, factoring in his future.

Kevin Stewart
He's been coming out of his shell of late and you wouldn't think that he was the same player that we signed.
£6 million. Maybe on the high side but he's improving and with us being robbed, fleeced, taken to the cleaners with the Robertson embarrassment then every penny would count. We managed it and more with Sam Clucas, more of a Swansea panic, I know.

Marcus Henriksen
Subject to management of his contract say £5 million.

The Socceroo say £5 million

Jarrod Bowen, not a penny less than £20 million

Kamil Grosicki £7 million

Dan Batty £4 million

Robbie McKenzie still a bit raw but IMO a future star he will be. I won't mention his valuation as I doubt very much he will be going anywhere.

All subject to management of contracts and lessons learned with previous "give aways"

The above sales would realise £65 million, let's deduct £15 million for " he aint woth that", or "we'll tek it, giz the money"

That still represents £50 million.

My opinion only and many might disagree but you can see lesser clubs than ours considerably upping their valuations for decent prospects.

We shouldn't be any different.

Agree or disagree, there is still a very tidy potential sum of money to be had.




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