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newlandcasual

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12/10/2018 at 11:29

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 10/10/2018 at 23:45


Not sure why there isn't greater derision on here about the HCST playing monopoly and thinking its real life.

I have for a while had a quiet snigger at some of the stuff released by them but one tries to be respectful of potentially well-meaning folk. This "bid" however is a huge fucking joke and they should stick to what they are best at, getting 15% off envelopes you don't need and badly printed "HCST are for me" scarves or scarfs, depending on I don't know what.



you need to get over to not 606 that sort of talk is blasphemy on there......bit like all this talk of thousands returning after the Allams fuck off....apart from a bump in the 1st few matches it won't happen to the extent people think it will.  

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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13/10/2018 at 07:41

I will take a look Newland, see if I can spot any potential investors, or conspirators perhaps.

I had a look at Amber Nectar once and I either didn’t understand the process or it was imitating a Tuesday morning in Sunk Island in February.

Let you know how I go. 

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13/10/2018 at 08:42

Notmuchtoseeon606, Cheats old bean.

Apparently, Lambretta man moved away from Hull in the 1980s so he didn't have to attend games any more, Norwich has a larger population and more rustic greetings card shops than Hull, Dennis Booth went to see an Elvis tribute act and Hendrickson hasn't been playing very well since getting the captaincy. That covers the entire forum.


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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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13/10/2018 at 22:08

Sounds interesting Gully.

I’ll save the event for a cold Boag or Tiger later in the day after I have answered the Trusts email questions to me on what they might get if they throw a double six or buy and extra couple of lucky dips on the Lithuanian lottery.

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14/10/2018 at 08:39

I think the club will be sold by January - if the financials are extrapolated, the Allans will be covering a £90k a week loss and faced with the task of re-investing to keep the club in the league if it's not.

I doubt very much that crypto currency and a crowd-funded HCST will be buying it.



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14/10/2018 at 10:46

A football financial whizz kid has valued City at 40 million ish. Relegation has him value us at 10 million ish. If I was a buyer, I would wait and save myself a few quid.

Not that I'm wishing for relegation, but right now it looks inevitable with the manager and players we have.

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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15/10/2018 at 02:27

Crikey. I had a look at Not606.

Recognised a few names. Sporadic threads on City, the rest I never ventured in to as it looked as dull as dishwater from the titles.

Read the Obi thread on City finances. A mix of sensible stuff and complete bollocks stuff, but that’s opinions for you I guess. Some of the “facts” though were just wrong, hence some misguided opinions.

I won’t be going back anytime soon. CI raw is the only diet for me, that and the FT of course. 

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17/10/2018 at 00:31

Had a quick scan through the news and I see it isn’t awash with takeover bits n bobs, save for Gareth Roberts asking to release the pain.

Odd innit, that even the removal of the Allams is cemented in apathy. Probably because we know what is brewing.

When it gets to administration time I’m bagging that wolly jumper in the trophy cabinet, so hands off. 

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17/10/2018 at 06:47

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 15/10/2018 at 02:27
Crikey. I had a look at Not606.

Recognised a few names. Sporadic threads on City, the rest I never ventured in to as it looked as dull as dishwater from the titles.

Read the Obi thread on City finances. A mix of sensible stuff and complete bollocks stuff, but that’s opinions for you I guess. Some of the “facts” though were just wrong, hence some misguided opinions.

I won’t be going back anytime soon. CI raw is the only diet for me, that and the FT of course.


Which facts are wrong?

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17/10/2018 at 11:11

Dunno Obi. Some seemed to be nothing to do with accounting. I’d go and look but it means going back on the MB, which doesn’t fill me with any joy.

I think a few had considered that the amount of revenue should magically turn in to profit, for which there is no real correlation, least not in foota terms anyway.

No indictment on anyway, just my view. 

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17/10/2018 at 12:01

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 17/10/2018 at 11:11
Dunno Obi. Some seemed to be nothing to do with accounting. I’d go and look but it means going back on the MB, which doesn’t fill me with any joy.

I think a few had considered that the amount of revenue should magically turn in to profit, for which there is no real correlation, least not in foota terms anyway.

No indictment on anyway, just my view.


That's ok. I sometimes miscount or make basic errors. When I worked I'd leave it for a day and recheck. The Allams aren't worth that amount of diligence though.

The surprising thing, at least for me, was how little they'd taken out from the last promotion windfall. If they haven't been fiddling the accounts, which I don't think they have, we must have been really in the shit with our spending. For that I blame Bruce and the old man not Ehab. His crimes against Hull City AFC lie elsewhere. Just my opinion but not a very popular one. 

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17/10/2018 at 13:24

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 17/10/2018 at 12:01


That's ok. I sometimes miscount or make basic errors. When I worked I'd leave it for a day and recheck. The Allams aren't worth that amount of diligence though.

The surprising thing, at least for me, was how little they'd taken out from the last promotion windfall. If they haven't been fiddling the accounts, which I don't think they have, we must have been really in the shit with our spending. For that I blame Bruce and the old man not Ehab. His crimes against Hull City AFC lie elsewhere. Just my opinion but not a very popular one.


Seems a reasonable opinion to me, and I pretty much agree.
I doubt they've been 'fiddling' as such. However, it's been far from a 'gift' and they've taken their interest, charges, and are doing all they can to get back their money (and maybe more).
I pretty much agree with the 'Bruce and the old man' bit.
And agree that Ehab's crimes lie elsewhere ... including the debacle of how Bruce was (rightly but in the totally wrong manner) got rid of. That's to my mind the main reason for how we end up in the mess we now are - utter incompetence by Enob (and the pair of them being utter cunts of course).  

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17/10/2018 at 14:09

From day one, the Allams stated that they weren't football people.
So, one wonders what expertise if any they have been using to guide them with transfer dealings, management of contracts, at senior, middle and academy levels plus potential signings?!
I dread to think how much money has "slipped" through our net, both from initially, football reasons and then since Bruce's tenure thereafter supposedly running the show as a "business".
Probably more than enough to sell the club today!!!

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17/10/2018 at 14:51

Quote Quote by KingstonKid on 17/10/2018 at 14:09
From day one, the Allams stated that they weren't football people.
So, one wonders what expertise if any they have been using to guide them with transfer dealings, management of contracts, at senior, middle and academy levels plus potential signings?!
I dread to think how much money has "slipped" through our net, both from initially, football reasons and then since Bruce's tenure thereafter supposedly running the show as a "business".
Probably more than enough to sell the club today!!!


I think the fact that they also clearly stated "nobody tells us how to run our business" answers the question in your 2nd sentence KK.

They have displayed utter incompetence, coupled with incredible arrogance and stubbornness. And that's keeping it polite.  

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17/10/2018 at 15:09

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 17/10/2018 at 12:01


That's ok. I sometimes miscount or make basic errors. When I worked I'd leave it for a day and recheck. The Allams aren't worth that amount of diligence though.

The surprising thing, at least for me, was how little they'd taken out from the last promotion windfall. If they haven't been fiddling the accounts, which I don't think they have, we must have been really in the shit with our spending. For that I blame Bruce and the old man not Ehab. His crimes against Hull City AFC lie elsewhere. Just my opinion but not a very popular one.


Ah, thats where I disagree. I think they have been dabbling, but in a much larger way. I don't have the numbers right now, too late and as you say, its not really worth it. That said, aside from the interest, which I have stated is probably lower than it should be, the money they laundered was from sticky sources, which is a far greater crime than nicking the odd biro.

I now also recall some of the 606 banter bout how much should and should not have been given. in the past now cus we are bottom of div 2 and likley be 10 points worse off come 31 Jan 2019.

For me, one of the biggest fook-ups was only getting Silva for 6 months. That said, everyone they knew was only coming to fill in the gaps, they hadn't banked on Marco actually being pretty good at his job. 

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