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essexgull

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01/10/2018 at 13:19

On due diligence paperwork, allegedly.

Would indicate a day to day role, rather than just middleman.



Let the banter begin.


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01/10/2018 at 16:20

Was it eddie boggins who used to call him the "Snake Oil Salesman"? 

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01/10/2018 at 16:41

Billy Bremner.

Whatever happened to Boggins? 

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01/10/2018 at 18:59

Quote Quote by NationalTiger on 01/10/2018 at 16:20
Was it eddie boggins who used to call him the "Snake Oil Salesman"?


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01/10/2018 at 19:10

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01/10/2018 at 19:32

Not sure why so many Hull fans are negative towards him. Sure, he talked up the club - but it needed it, he brought the vibe and he bought players that fans would only have dreamed of 3 seasons previous. Yes, he was rather laissez-faire with the purse strings, but that was under the pretext of Bartlett's source not dryng up. Hull fans got a little protestant about his spending once relegation occurred, forgetting that they had seen history being made. After all what has happened with the Allans, it's a point of note that not one Hull employee has spoken badly of Duffen or his rule. Shame he didn't sort the pie forks or the temperature of the Chicken Balti pies out though.


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01/10/2018 at 22:13

I'd rather have Duffen than Allams. 

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01/10/2018 at 22:34

Ditto TOP 

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Quote Quote by essexgull on 01/10/2018 at 19:32
Not sure why so many Hull fans are negative towards him. Sure, he talked up the club - but it needed it, he brought the vibe and he bought players that fans would only have dreamed of 3 seasons previous. Yes, he was rather laissez-faire with the purse strings, but that was under the pretext of Bartlett's source not dryng up. Hull fans got a little protestant about his spending once relegation occurred, forgetting that they had seen history being made. After all what has happened with the Allans, it's a point of note that not one Hull employee has spoken badly of Duffen or his rule. Shame he didn't sort the pie forks or the temperature of the Chicken Balti pies out though.


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One blonk eh.

He stole money from the club. Bought rancid players Fell Broon didn’t want just so he could make a deal without the agent and send fees to an offshore account.

A Fukien criminal and no one should forget that. The price for Kamil Zayatte was £1m. We paid £3m. Duffend used to tell his little after dinner joke about how he googled “Young Boys” and then “young boys Switzerland” when sourcing Kamil Zayatte, with the crowds laughing at the prospect of him being a Potential Peado. Who knows, but great humour Paul. Maybe try a takeover in Rotherham then.

Ronnie Biggs was a loveable thief, though doubt one might want him cashing up for you at the end of the day.

Being marginally ahead of the Allams I saw no winning ticket.

I guess the upside is the Carly might come back as one of the Polar Bear pole dancers and Mr. Wright might return with some tales about her, aside from that I can see nothing there to suggest he has the red bull effect City need.

If we are ranking, I’d rathè have Martin Fish Out ahead of Duffend. Gives some perspective eh. 

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02/10/2018 at 07:38

We don't know anything as yet about Duffen's role or investors, should it happen.
One thing we do know is that the current toxic atmosphere at our beloved club has reached "boiling point"
Engaging with the fans and bringing in a feel good factor again would be well worth a punt IMO.
Unfinished business.
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02/10/2018 at 11:46

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 02/10/2018 at 02:37


One blonk eh.

He stole money from the club. Bought rancid players Fell Broon didn’t want just so he could make a deal without the agent and send fees to an offshore account.

A Fukien criminal and no one should forget that. The price for Kamil Zayatte was £1m. We paid £3m. Duffend used to tell his little after dinner joke about how he googled “Young Boys” and then “young boys Switzerland” when sourcing Kamil Zayatte, with the crowds laughing at the prospect of him being a Potential Peado. Who knows, but great humour Paul. Maybe try a takeover in Rotherham then.

Ronnie Biggs was a loveable thief, though doubt one might want him cashing up for you at the end of the day.

Being marginally ahead of the Allams I saw no winning ticket.

I guess the upside is the Carly might come back as one of the Polar Bear pole dancers and Mr. Wright might return with some tales about her, aside from that I can see nothing there to suggest he has the red bull effect City need.

If we are ranking, I’d rathè have Martin Fish Out ahead of Duffend. Gives some perspective eh.


Err, no one tell Cheats how much the Allans have taken out the club...


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02/10/2018 at 11:53

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 02/10/2018 at 02:37


One blonk eh.

He stole money from the club. Bought rancid players Fell Broon didn’t want just so he could make a deal without the agent and send fees to an offshore account.

A Fukien criminal and no one should forget that. The price for Kamil Zayatte was £1m. We paid £3m. Duffend used to tell his little after dinner joke about how he googled “Young Boys” and then “young boys Switzerland” when sourcing Kamil Zayatte, with the crowds laughing at the prospect of him being a Potential Peado. Who knows, but great humour Paul. Maybe try a takeover in Rotherham then.

Ronnie Biggs was a loveable thief, though doubt one might want him cashing up for you at the end of the day.

Being marginally ahead of the Allams I saw no winning ticket.

I guess the upside is the Carly might come back as one of the Polar Bear pole dancers and Mr. Wright might return with some tales about her, aside from that I can see nothing there to suggest he has the red bull effect City need.

If we are ranking, I’d rathè have Martin Fish Out ahead of Duffend. Gives some perspective eh.


I wouldn't.
He didn't.
He wasn't.
And he's now older and wiser.
Best we can realistically hope for is some well minted overseas buyer(s) who is (are) prepared to throw some money at it, but with someone like PD or AP fronting it up; meaning someone who does understand what it's about, who will engage and bring some positivity, and who will reverse the appalling actions of the cunts currently in charge. #DareToDream 

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02/10/2018 at 12:06

Getting Carly Duffen back in as manager and selling Jim Bowen to pay off the dock fees of 'Black N' Amber', currently impounded at the Yacht Club de Monaco, would be a great reintroduction for Paul to the city of Hull.


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#14
03/10/2018 at 21:19

Gull, are you pro or anti Duffen? 

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essexgull

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03/10/2018 at 21:36

I liked him and his crimes mentioned by Cheats are fairly miniscule on the scale, a couple of million here and there didn't make much of a difference. He caught a lot of the flak that would have been better directed at the owner. Overall his achievements far outweighed his failures. He dared to dream.

Will he be any good? He knows the city and knows the fans, but ultimately will be the front man and doing the bidding of whomever is paying, or not paying, the bills.


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03/10/2018 at 22:20

We've had far worse, but he's not perfect by any stretch. 

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04/10/2018 at 08:21

Can you name a perfect leader? 

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04/10/2018 at 10:20

Duffen or the Allams?

Dare to dream, or .....die as soon as they want?
Trouser a few quid by somewhat dubious means, or trouser a few quid through legitimate accounting practices?
Engage with the support, or alienate, divide and describe your fans as irrelevant?

Whatever the court case was about it would seem to be purely business, nothing personal. Duffen brokering a deal would suggest so.

In the absence of any other interested parties, why not give the bloke another go? Yes, he's not perfect, but to echo KK, who is? 

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04/10/2018 at 10:52

I believe it was for creative accounting hiding some the club's debts, of which he claims he wasn't aware of, allegedly. The Allans originally thought/were told they'd have to inject in around £10 million, that ended up being nearer the 30s. The claim was dropped because Duffen showed that it wasn't him personally who was dealing with that area, although he brokered the sale/transfer so was seen as liable at the time. He clearly couldn't afford to back the difference so was no point continuing legal action.


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essexgull

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04/10/2018 at 11:56

Lol. Zero formal approaches for club in last two years and now Ehab is claiming there are three at the same time to put pressure on Duffen's consortium to up their offer... Only he could mess this up.


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04/10/2018 at 12:34

He'll mess it up because they still haven't fooked up every single Hull City fan that ever existed, yet... 

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04/10/2018 at 16:00

Quote Quote by essexgull on 04/10/2018 at 10:52
I believe it was for creative accounting hiding some the club's debts, of which he claims he wasn't aware of, allegedly. The Allans originally thought/were told they'd have to inject in around £10 million, that ended up being nearer the 30s. The claim was dropped because Duffen showed that it wasn't him personally who was dealing with that area, although he brokered the sale/transfer so was seen as liable at the time. He clearly couldn't afford to back the difference so was no point continuing legal action.


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It was simple theft. The case was resolved when it was agreed Paul “winky” Duffend agreed to repay the sum of money he took from the club. City were also under severe pressure from the Prem/FA to not bring it to trial as the compelling evidence would have shown how corrupt the game is with agents and transfer fees.

The court froze all of his assets. All of his assets. I have said on here that the ability to do this in a court of law is somewhat limited yet the evidence was such that this was easily granted. The fooker was and is, bang to Rights. If he were tattooed with stripes and a bag with SWAG on his back it would be a true enough representation. There is no doubt and also as I have said, let the bloke sue me if I am anyway shape or form incorrect. He is a common petty thief. Any good or not at PR? Who cares, a crook and caught out.

As for the £10m becoming £30m, that is correct but it only reflected the incompetence of the business at the time, I.e. Duffend didn’t know who owed what, aside from his car allowance and his expenses getting paid.

If City take him back it will be a step sideways. Sure, not as vile as the Allams but it’s the same as having to drink someone else’s vomit or someone’s else’s shit.

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04/10/2018 at 17:19

Quote Quote by I'm an alligator... on 04/10/2018 at 12:34
He'll mess it up because they still haven't fooked up every single Hull City fan that ever existed, yet...


^^^^^

This. 

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11/10/2018 at 02:08

The Saudis are a bunch of immoral savages who are only tolerated on the world stage because they have oil and money. The are immoral and most follow a brutal pastiche of a religion, based on hate, savagery, brutality, lacking humanity, compassion, and anything else good and/or worthwhile.

It's time these immoral nasty hateful shits were called out for what they are - subhuman by choice. It's time Britain's and the world's foul disgusting arms industries stopped supplying them with the means to industrialise their murderous regime.

They are not fit persons to be owning and running British football team. 

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11/10/2018 at 06:16

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 11/10/2018 at 02:08
The Saudis are a bunch of immoral savages who are only tolerated on the world stage because they have oil and money. The are immoral and most follow a brutal pastiche of a religion, based on hate, savagery, brutality, lacking humanity, compassion, and anything else good and/or worthwhile.

It's time these immoral nasty hateful shits were called out for what they are - subhuman by choice. It's time Britain's and the world's foul disgusting arms industries stopped supplying them with the means to industrialise their murderous regime.

They are not fit persons to be owning and running British football team.


3/4 of the 9/11 bombers were Saudi and there were direct links to Saudi money all along the trail... Yet 'we' went to war on Iraq and Afghanistan, making Saudi Arabia allies...

Most on here were vocal supporters of this. They won't care who the owners are or what their background is.


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11/10/2018 at 08:21

Most on here supported wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Really?

On another note; I hope whoever's buying watched the Assad program, in particular the 'hamburger trick'.

Or perhaps they're from the same slopey shouldered part of the world. 

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11/10/2018 at 10:12

At the time, yes.

As long as they're signing players that other clubs want, most of the football audience remaining nowadays wouldn't care if it was a consortium headed up by Ian Huntley and Josef Fritzl.


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11/10/2018 at 12:36

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 11/10/2018 at 02:08
The Saudis are a bunch of immoral savages who are only tolerated on the world stage because they have oil and money. The are immoral and most follow a brutal pastiche of a religion, based on hate, savagery, brutality, lacking humanity, compassion, and anything else good and/or worthwhile.

It's time these immoral nasty hateful shits were called out for what they are - subhuman by choice. It's time Britain's and the world's foul disgusting arms industries stopped supplying them with the means to industrialise their murderous regime.

They are not fit persons to be owning and running British football team.


Happy with Siemens putting money into Hull though? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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11/10/2018 at 14:14

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 11/10/2018 at 02:08
The Saudis are a bunch of immoral savages who are only tolerated on the world stage because they have oil and money. The are immoral and most follow a brutal pastiche of a religion, based on hate, savagery, brutality, lacking humanity, compassion, and anything else good and/or worthwhile.

It's time these immoral nasty hateful shits were called out for what they are - subhuman by choice. It's time Britain's and the world's foul disgusting arms industries stopped supplying them with the means to industrialise their murderous regime.

They are not fit persons to be owning and running British football team.


Happy with Siemens putting money into Hull though? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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11/10/2018 at 14:14

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 11/10/2018 at 02:08
The Saudis are a bunch of immoral savages who are only tolerated on the world stage because they have oil and money. The are immoral and most follow a brutal pastiche of a religion, based on hate, savagery, brutality, lacking humanity, compassion, and anything else good and/or worthwhile.

It's time these immoral nasty hateful shits were called out for what they are - subhuman by choice. It's time Britain's and the world's foul disgusting arms industries stopped supplying them with the means to industrialise their murderous regime.

They are not fit persons to be owning and running British football team.


Happy with Siemens putting money into Hull though? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 11/10/2018 at 02:08
The Saudis are a bunch of immoral savages who are only tolerated on the world stage because they have oil and money. The are immoral and most follow a brutal pastiche of a religion, based on hate, savagery, brutality, lacking humanity, compassion, and anything else good and/or worthwhile.

It's time these immoral nasty hateful shits were called out for what they are - subhuman by choice. It's time Britain's and the world's foul disgusting arms industries stopped supplying them with the means to industrialise their murderous regime.

They are not fit persons to be owning and running British football team.


Happy with Siemens putting money into Hull though? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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11/10/2018 at 14:28

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 11/10/2018 at 14:14


Happy with Siemens putting money into Hull though?


Not given it any thought, since I know nothing about them and the Germs appear to have got over their habit of trying to kill everybody. 

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Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 11/10/2018 at 14:28


Not given it any thought, since I know nothing about them and the Germs appear to have got over their habit of trying to kill everybody.


On about Siemens. And how the company made a lot of its money.

"Siemens was a leading corporate participant in Hitler’s “death through work program;” with slave labor factories at the following death camps: Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Flossenberg, Gross Rosen, Mauthausen, Neuengamme, Ravensbruck, & Sachsenhausen

In late 1944, at the height of World War II, Siemens’ total workforce of 244,000 included 50,000 people who had been put to work against their will. The overall number of people who served as forced labor at Siemens during the war years was even higher.

The major private firm that used slave labor at Ravensbrück was the Siemens Electric Company, today the second largest electric company in the world. In a separate camp adjoining the main one, Siemens “employed” the women to make electrical components for V-1 and V-2 rockets. The women usually worked for twelve hours a day, under conditions of extreme exploitation. Women also worked at some of the most difficult tasks, including construction. They were used like animals, with twelve to fourteen of them pulling a huge roller to pave the streets,
In addition to the profitable business of working people to death at Nazi concentration camps, Siemens did quite well in the so-called “Aryanization Program,” which was essentially the expropriation of Jewish businesses for resale at bargain basement prices to approved German companies

Siemens general director during the Holocaust, Rudolf Bingel, was one of the senior German business leaders active in the notorious Himmlerkreis, the Circle of Friends of Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler. The companies represented in Himmler’s circle became pacesetters in Aryanization, exploitation of concentration camp labor, seizure of foreign companies in the occupied territories, and similar business ventures that depended on SS cooperation."



2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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Thanks. That's horrific. Was VW operating in the same manner? 

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11/10/2018 at 19:17

It was preferable in the situation that was for many to work as slave labour in the factories as the alternative was execution. Being useful kept them alive.

500,000 Germans were worked to death in Soviet mines and quarries after WW2 and 3 million German women were raped by Soviet forces on their way to Moscow and world stood by and did nothing.

There were nearly as many French Nazis as there were German ones and even before the Vichy government was installed, many French were happily loading Jews onto death trains, yet astonishingly history has treated the French as victims and victors. Perhaps if the French army hadn't been allowed to match on the Ruhr to pick up reparations from a country already struggling in depression and hyperinflation, national socialists would never have got the initial sympathy. Perhaps if the German Communist party hadn't conspired with the Nazis to get the social Democrats out and destroy the Weimar Republic, the rise would not have continued.

The British Empire resulted in the deaths of millions for the sake of British wealth, so really, all of us have benefited in some way historically from slave labour.

No one is innocent. Difference is the Saudis are doing bad things now at this present moment.


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11/10/2018 at 20:53

With this in mind, next time I purchase a wind turbine I shall take my business to anyone but Siemens. 

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11/10/2018 at 21:52

Hugo Boss designed all Nazi uniforms and is still doing very well to this day in the fashion industry
Adi Dasler and his brother both were in Hiter Youth.

Duffen appears to doing the same job as Jarvis/Blackbridge - facilitating the deal.
Duffen has to xperience Jarvis is a kid is how I see it.
Saudi money or Coin-Op money, it’s all laundering to me.
 

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12/10/2018 at 01:57

I doubt there is one corporation on the planet that does not have some legacy taint in its DNA. That doesn’t make it a current threat to mankind though.

A lot of commemorations being removed from public sight now due to “history”. Understood but if convention at the time was for people of a certain stature to employ slaves, then they did. Where is the difference between that and illegal immigrants getting paid £2 an hour for cleaning toilets and cooking fast food, after having paid a (relative) fortune to a people smuggler in the hope of a new start.

We (old school) used to freely use terms like queer, nigger, retard, United fan and it didn’t mean much because it wasn’t meant to be much, same as fatty, four eyes etc. Just observations really. We don’t now because the emphasis has changed in culture and demographics.

I recounted a tale the other day and it started with, remember those couple of poofs that... and someone said “excuse me”. I carried on but fuck me if you can’t say what they are you lose the thread.

Got fuck all to do with Bowen and .grosicki not starting against the blunts though. 

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12/10/2018 at 08:23

Quote Quote by normantony on 11/10/2018 at 21:52
Hugo Boss designed all Nazi uniforms and is still doing very well to this day in the fashion industry
Adi Dasler and his brother both were in Hiter Youth.



Yes, Siemens & Hugo Boss, the Dassler brothers made army boots so Adidas and Puma were also complicit, Ferdinand Porsche designed the Tanks so Porsche & VW also. In the Aircraft industry Dornier still operate, Heinkel, Messerchmitt and Junker all survived the War merging into MBB, then DASA then into Airbus.

The BAE factory at Brough has produced aircraft for the Saudis for a long time creating more local employment than Siemens have.

 

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Quote Quote by normantony on 11/10/2018 at 21:52
Hugo Boss designed all Nazi uniforms and is still doing very well to this day in the fashion industry
Adi Dasler and his brother both were in Hiter Youth.



Yes, Siemens & Hugo Boss, the Dassler brothers made army boots so Adidas and Puma were also complicit, Ferdinand Porsche designed the Tanks so Porsche & VW also. In the Aircraft industry Dornier still operate, Heinkel, Messerchmitt and Junker all survived the War merging into MBB, then DASA then into Airbus.

The BAE factory at Brough has produced aircraft for the Saudis for a long time creating more local employment than Siemens have.

 

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12/10/2018 at 11:03

So when we all wear Adidas and ride in German cars and fly in Airbus planes we aren't really guilty of anything, likewise if our government gives us export licenses to export to Saudi and we get employment from that and the Football League allows Saudi money to pass fit and proper tests then they can buy our football club.  

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12/10/2018 at 11:33

Can't believe i've learnt something today. 

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13/10/2018 at 07:53

Lest we forget, the Allams strongly implied they laundered money from Egypt for the purposes of Hull City Tigers.

Football awash with dirty money.

Off the top of my head in the Prem alone....

Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Everton, Wolves, ABC Bourneville, Leicester, Cardiff. West Ham bought with porn money.

Tonnes more, Leeds, Sheffield Wed, WBA, Blackburn, Villa, Forest, Barnsley, Birmingham, Reading, Hull City.

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14/10/2018 at 13:03

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 11/10/2018 at 17:06


On about Siemens. And how the company made a lot of its money.

"Siemens was a leading corporate participant in Hitler’s “death through work program;” with slave labor factories at the following death camps: Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Flossenberg, Gross Rosen, Mauthausen, Neuengamme, Ravensbruck, & Sachsenhausen

In late 1944, at the height of World War II, Siemens’ total workforce of 244,000 included 50,000 people who had been put to work against their will. The overall number of people who served as forced labor at Siemens during the war years was even higher.

The major private firm that used slave labor at Ravensbrück was the Siemens Electric Company, today the second largest electric company in the world. In a separate camp adjoining the main one, Siemens “employed” the women to make electrical components for V-1 and V-2 rockets. The women usually worked for twelve hours a day, under conditions of extreme exploitation. Women also worked at some of the most difficult tasks, including construction. They were used like animals, with twelve to fourteen of them pulling a huge roller to pave the streets,
In addition to the profitable business of working people to death at Nazi concentration camps, Siemens did quite well in the so-called “Aryanization Program,” which was essentially the expropriation of Jewish businesses for resale at bargain basement prices to approved German companies

Siemens general director during the Holocaust, Rudolf Bingel, was one of the senior German business leaders active in the notorious Himmlerkreis, the Circle of Friends of Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler. The companies represented in Himmler’s circle became pacesetters in Aryanization, exploitation of concentration camp labor, seizure of foreign companies in the occupied territories, and similar business ventures that depended on SS cooperation."





You can't change the past.

You can however, change the present to influence the future for better. 

Now then... 

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14/10/2018 at 14:07

Been a problem with the Duffen bid.

The sportyco bid hasn't even got through the door as they couldn't show a proof of funds - an Allan requirement for a discussion.


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15/10/2018 at 02:34

There’s no deal.

It’s bluff to bridge the gap between now and January. 

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