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Hulltim8 City AFC

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#63
30/09/2018 at 09:53

Quote Quote by The Prince of Munster on 26/09/2018 at 15:40


Timothy, it was a bit of a joke.

I don’t know if you’ve been watching the news over the last couple of months, but there’s been at least one disturbance in the channel involving Britain and the French.

Stick to communism and North Korea, mate.


Don't enter into the realms of history. You've shown your lack of knowledge on previous occasions.  

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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01/10/2018 at 03:33

Quote Quote by karlberg on 25/09/2018 at 12:54
Some of us voted in 1974/75 to join the Common Market or not, which is nothing like what we are tangled up in today.


Correct.

The original plan was free trade between 6 countries, whose borders meant it was physically difficult to steer away from a single market. The Uk joined with 2 others (Denmark n Ireland?) but under much protest from the existing countries.

The referendum vote was to leave the EU. Primarily the legislature and immigration being the factors. No one disputed the schagen agreement worked, but it also works for countries not in the EU, such as Norway and Switzerland.

Without the UK contribution the EU is a tad light and they are secretly shitting themselves that many others will look at any UK success in breaking away as a thick end of a wedge, I.e. it will implode.

Aside from free trade the EU is a self serving piece of shit. Just what exactly do Latvia and Wales trade on a daily basis? That said, some illegal Somali dopehead can jump in a lorry, get to England, rape a few white girls, and when he gets locked up he can complain to the European Court of Human Rights and get the decision overturned with large compo on top.

Lots of other countries make it on their own and the UK will do just fine, even easier if the EU don’t continue to try to leg it up for their own interests.

Having these Labour oiks talk about “doing a deal” is an embarrassment of the highest order. They are buffoons from yesteryear and those millenniums who cheer them on because its “more fair innit” want butt fucking with a wire brush.

Leave with no deal. Fuck em. Apart from the golf bit. 

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01/10/2018 at 07:14

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 01/10/2018 at 03:33


Correct.

The original plan was free trade between 6 countries, whose borders meant it was physically difficult to steer away from a single market. The Uk joined with 2 others (Denmark n Ireland?) but under much protest from the existing countries.

The referendum vote was to leave the EU. Primarily the legislature and immigration being the factors. No one disputed the schagen agreement worked, but it also works for countries not in the EU, such as Norway and Switzerland.

Without the UK contribution the EU is a tad light and they are secretly shitting themselves that many others will look at any UK success in breaking away as a thick end of a wedge, I.e. it will implode.


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My thoughts put into words, Cheats old bean. 

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01/10/2018 at 11:18

Why would net recipients want to leave a mutually beneficial trading zone worth 3 trillion euro a year?

The majority of EU residents don't really care if straight bananas can't be sold or any of the things that got Brits so worked up.

If the benefits of leaving are so high, why did Scotland vote heavily to remain?


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#67
01/10/2018 at 12:09

Feeble attempt at putting up a remain argument Gull, CI is 90% Brexit.

Everyone quotes Norway and Switzerland or hopes for a super Canada deal, no one mentions Europes 5th biggest economy to the East who thrive well enough outside the EU, Russia, what trade deal do they have? First hand experience Nash?  

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01/10/2018 at 12:23

Russia! LOL.


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01/10/2018 at 12:44

Let's be frank, Ted old bean, The English Elderly behaved like in the scene in Predator, where the alien predator, laying back in the mud knowing its going to die, cackles and sets off a nuclear bomb which decimates the surrounding area.


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01/10/2018 at 14:41

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 01/10/2018 at 12:09
Feeble attempt at putting up a remain argument Gull, CI is 90% Brexit.

Everyone quotes Norway and Switzerland or hopes for a super Canada deal, no one mentions Europes 5th biggest economy to the East who thrive well enough outside the EU, Russia, what trade deal do they have? First hand experience Nash?


Scotland historically aligned with France against England. 

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01/10/2018 at 15:03

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 01/10/2018 at 14:41


Scotland historically aligned with France against England.


Scotland had its own independence vote and voted to stay in the union, they know they are not economically viable as an independent nation, they voted to be subsidised by the English.  

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01/10/2018 at 15:14

The Leave areas of England are not independently economically viable without subisidisation from the EU and Remain areas.


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01/10/2018 at 15:55

Quote Quote by essexgull on 01/10/2018 at 15:14
The Leave areas of England are not independently economically viable without subisidisation from the EU and Remain areas.


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Now you sound like a lairy cockney rocking up to the KCOM singing We Pay Your Benefits...

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01/10/2018 at 16:05

Quote Quote by essexgull on 01/10/2018 at 15:14
The Leave areas of England are not independently economically viable without subisidisation from the EU and Remain areas.


ESSEX GULL


The leave areas of England were already struggling even under EU membership. Also, don't forget, some of the Leave vote was a big FU to Cameron, though admittedly a case of turkeys voting for Xmas. 

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01/10/2018 at 18:57

To be honest, I hope Brexit will be the toilet flush that sees off the Conservatives and Labour for good. They both serve such a small section of society now and in a direct democracy, there really should be no need for these types of parties or leadership. Who is the prime minister of Switzerland... Hardly anyone knows or needs to know. The UK should be like this - modern politics.


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#76
01/10/2018 at 22:45

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 01/10/2018 at 12:09
Feeble attempt at putting up a remain argument Gull, CI is 90% Brexit.

Everyone quotes Norway and Switzerland or hopes for a super Canada deal, no one mentions Europes 5th biggest economy to the East who thrive well enough outside the EU, Russia, what trade deal do they have? First hand experience Nash?


Interesting.

Russia is part of the 'BRIC' nations.

BRIC is a financial acronym of countries and territories that have the capacity to emerge as a huge player in the global economy, but are considered to be too unstable and/or under-developed to realise their own potential. Therefore, as the acronym reveals itself, these nations are Brazil, Russia, India and China. (BRIC)

Have to say, I tend to agree with Gull on this matter; there is high degree of risk attached to trade deals with these countries. But, I do agree with you Ted, that's not to say these places should at least be explored by an 'EU free' UK.

Politically, though, the UK - and Russia in particular - seem polls apart at the present.

But it won't stay like that forever. 

Now then... 

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02/10/2018 at 02:13

There is no risk to the trade deal.

Lots of millennium type talk about traffic lights not working on 30 March 2019 because Brussels turned off the switch.

The Irish border is an issue to resolve, but not so much a mountain, just a decent hill to climb. No european country wants tariffs so don’t need to have them. It needs a sensible head on both sides and because it’s politics the chances of that happening is close to zero. They can’t put their trousers on in a morning let alone work a deal.

Gull surprisingly makes a valid point, oust the Labour and Tory platforms. They are split now and full of complete wankers. I quite admire May though. She took a hospital pass and has kept her honour throughout. In another time she might be a good leader. On the same subject, they can squeal all they like about her but one reason she remains and the Tories remain is because of the laughable ineptitude on the opposition side. Labour are an unfunny joke. Liberals gone, UKIP gone, greens gone yellow. Hang on, who is that coming over the hill all guns blazing? Why its Tommy Robinson and the Robinsons...... hip hip horay.

Enoch would have had this lot for lunch.

What does question time say about it?

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