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essexgull

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#16
19/09/2018 at 17:11

It's a shame what has happened to Hull really. Quite a few of you got way ahead of yourselves "cement ourselves as a Europa League level team" being the words wisely stated by many. But on the whole, you weren't a bad club in the top two leagues and you had some great times whilst you were at it. Despite that success, I don't think any club has ever been reluctant to play Hull and you haven't developed any rivals further than Scunthorpe, Lincoln and Grimsby.

A combination of the Allans, the decline in the Saturday 'day out' watching football (not just attending) and general malaise with football at the moment means that most of you will never see the same level of highs in your lifetimes.

So what do you do? Still read this forum obviously, look at the results, look at the team that Atkins has defecated out his harris on to the pitch and think you could do better, but really, it's over for good.

I had it 6 years ago with The Gulls and now you have it with Hull. There will be plenty more like us over the following decade.



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essexgull

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19/09/2018 at 17:23

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 19/09/2018 at 08:53


You would be thinking of suicide if you read the shite on not606, which I don’t, ever, as I’m not 14.

CI is the only substance abuse for me.

Pint


Had periods around 19-22 where I was in a dark place and thought I was seriously considering it. Lot of family issues came to the fore during that difficult period where youth turns to man. When my peers were drinking away their loans, attending CND and Greenpeace marches and dressing up for Rocky Horror picture show fancy dress parties, I was often sat alone with a bottle of Grants staring at the wall.
Didn't want my grandmother to ever have to experience my departure though and by the time she did pass away, I was through that phase of my life and the challenges of work and adult life gave me little time to dwell on the black dog. It takes an awful lot of courage to kill yourself and I'm now very glad that I didn't have it.
We're all just a few fuck-ups from losing everything so always worth remaining humble.



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karlberg

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#18
20/09/2018 at 09:54

Quote Quote by essexgull on 19/09/2018 at 17:11
It's a shame what has happened to Hull really. Quite a few of you got way ahead of yourselves "cement ourselves as a Europa League level team" being the words wisely stated by many. But on the whole, you weren't a bad club in the top two leagues and you had some great times whilst you were at it. Despite that success, I don't think any club has ever been reluctant to play Hull and you haven't developed any rivals further than Scunthorpe, Lincoln and Grimsby.

A combination of the Allans, the decline in the Saturday 'day out' watching football (not just attending) and general malaise with football at the moment means that most of you will never see the same level of highs in your lifetimes.

So what do you do? Still read this forum obviously, look at the results, look at the team that Atkins has defecated out his harris on to the pitch and think you could do better, but really, it's over for good.

I had it 6 years ago with The Gulls and now you have it with Hull. There will be plenty more like us over the following decade.



ESSEX GULL


Sensible post from The Gull shock. Don't you think that most of us 'old school types' are exactly that, getting older and things can never be as they used to be football wise ?
We've witnessed some incredible times watching City over the last ten years. Unimaginable highs. I distinctly remember boarding the bus home after beating Spurs at White Harte Lane, the week after we'd also beaten Arsenal away ( which I was fortunate to see first hand) and thinking to myself that winning the Premiership isn't that difficult and we could actually do it. That's how high the expectations at that time were.
Based on the previous 104 years of under achievement to actually be in that position was pure fantasy. Of course it was never going to last or be that easy but the ride at that time was incredible. I don't think we will ever be fortunate enough to witness it again.
So we reached for the stars and touched the sun but the downward spiral was inivitable and I still say that initial meeting between Assem Allam and Terry Geraghty, when it should have been a full council meeting, did untold damage and clipped our wings.
The reality of it is today is we are still a moderate sized club playing from a council owned ground which we have to share with another club and competitor.
But that 104 year old monkey is off our backs.

link; www.finesse-internet.co.uk/the-best-trip/ (THE BOOK THE CLUB REFUSED TO SELL). 

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I'm an alligator...

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20/09/2018 at 14:28

You '...still say that initial meeting between Assem Allam and Terry Geraghty, when it should have been a full council meeting, did untold damage and clipped our wings'.

Oh dear... 

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karlberg

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20/09/2018 at 19:54

Quote Quote by I'm an alligator... on 20/09/2018 at 14:28
You '...still say that initial meeting between Assem Allam and Terry Geraghty, when it should have been a full council meeting, did untold damage and clipped our wings'.

Oh dear...


We'll never know what might have been and I doubt if we'll get another chance. That is my point. 

link; www.finesse-internet.co.uk/the-best-trip/ (THE BOOK THE CLUB REFUSED TO SELL). 

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20/09/2018 at 22:05

Fwiw, I think you are right.
The Allams have turned out to be utter cunts, and maybe were right from the start.
But had it gone differently, it could have been a win-win (he got what he wanted i.e. made money and we got what we wanted i.e. sustained success and a prospering club). Instead it's become a lose-lose-lose ..... Actually, worse than that, it's become a damn nightmare for all involved.  

The fish rots from the head #AllamOut 

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potential

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21/09/2018 at 12:44

I have no doubt there was never any philanthropic purpose behind the purchase. Says he with the glorious gift of hindsight.

My favourite theory is the quick in and out one. Buy the club, obtain the freehold, sell the job lot on for a large profit. As KB says, the meeting went somewhat less than well and put the skids under that scheme.

The last accounts show, and the statement by the directors, that outside of the prem, City are dependent on the owners putting their own money in. The collapse of the sale to the American (?) consortium at the last minute was a very costly display of brinkmanship. They would have been out with a tidy sum.

No doubt the interest payments, tax breaks, and any sale price will see them quite pleased with their monetary investment.

Its been a long 24 hours.

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NationalTiger

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#23
21/09/2018 at 19:51

I'm reading potential and quietly nodding along.

To think (again with hindsight looming over me) I actually thought giving the Allams the keys to the stadium was a reasonable idea.

Lucky escape?

Missed opportunity?

Pays your money and take your pick.

But I (now) know what I think. 

Now then... 

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The Prince of Munster

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#24
22/09/2018 at 20:10

I think it was Boggins of all people who called them out, long before anyone else.

It’s a shame. I miss my days out at football, the cold dark walk back to the pub to celebrate or drown ones sorrows.

I’d like to think I’ll go back when the Allams have left. I believe we’ll be back in Division 3 or 4 when that happens so back where we started when I started going regularly...and defeats to the likes of Macclesfield, Torquay and Mansfield to look forward to. 

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The Prince of Munster

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23/09/2018 at 00:41

I think it was Boggins of all people who called them out, long before anyone else.

It’s a shame. I miss my days out at football, the cold dark walk back to the pub to celebrate or drown ones sorrows.

I’d like to think I’ll go back when the Allams have left. I believe we’ll be back in Division 3 or 4 when that happens so back where we started when I started going regularly...and defeats to the likes of Macclesfield, Torquay and Mansfield to look forward to. 

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23/09/2018 at 11:56

Quote Quote by The Prince of Munster on 22/09/2018 at 20:10
I think it was Boggins of all people who called them out, long before anyone else.

It’s a shame. I miss my days out at football, the cold dark walk back to the pub to celebrate or drown ones sorrows.

I’d like to think I’ll go back when the Allams have left. I believe we’ll be back in Division 3 or 4 when that happens so back where we started when I started going regularly...and defeats to the likes of Macclesfield, Torquay and Mansfield to look forward to.


StinkyDocker called them out from day one. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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NationalTiger

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#27
23/09/2018 at 12:22

EGD Wright. 

Now then... 

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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#28
01/10/2018 at 03:41

A handful said “beware”.

The gift was always a horror, and it just got worse.

Can’t go back and even if we could, what would change? 

Bunkers Hill - See you in the next life 

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Driff_Tiger

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#29
01/10/2018 at 08:01

It was Stinky who was pretty much a lone voice on here right at the start.
I remember as I had disagreements with him (or him with me).
I thought it was just cynicism, maybe a trait of not trusting anyone? Don't know whether he knew or it was a gut feel or a pure guess. But to be fair, he was right. And then some.  

The fish rots from the head #AllamOut 

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essexgull

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#30
01/10/2018 at 11:25

There were a few voices of dissent and a few more of caution, especially during the KFC giveaway discussion period.

The Allans were lucky to get Bruce in the ascendancy and then unlucky to have him when he made disastrous mistakes in the second season of the PL. They were then extremely fortunate that Bruce accepted his culpability in the relegation and was gentleman enough to stay on to 'luckily' win promotion once again, when he clearly wanted away from the club due to issues with the owners.



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