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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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10/09/2018 at 07:20

Quote Quote by NationalTiger on 09/09/2018 at 18:40


The problem is; the Trust isn't a protest group. Indeed, it should be working 'with' the club - not against it. Despite all the Trust's best efforts, it cannot bridge the gulf. Not for a lack of effort or want of trying, we all know why. The Allams point blank refuse to do anything that means compromise or concession (pun intended) for their part would take place.

Unfortunately for the Allams, EFL constitution states, were a trust exists at a football club, then a meeting must take place a minimum of twice a year between both parties. You can well imagine that's gone down like a shit sandwich with Ehab.

Right now, Supporters Direct and the Football Supporters Federation are well briefed and on the case. With the greatest respect, I fear both are like a dog with no teeth. But we'll see.


Who did the billboard then National if HCST isn’t a protest group?

I might be wrong but the last time Bielby put a suit and tie on for his tea n buscuits with the Allams was December 2017. Twice a year indeed and Supporters Direct well briefed - wonder3d why the Allams are followed by a portaloo, they must be shitting themselves.

As I say, thankless task and their endeavour is appreciated, but it’s a fruitless effort so far, OSC with different mugs for £4.99,get em early for Xmas.

Football authorities are spineless across the globe. Run by fans who secure themselves free entry and the best seats. Match fixing, cheating, they don’t need fans unless it’s a family of four buying high priced hotdogs and some crappy thing with a club logo on it.

Allams are taking the piss and no one is making an issue of it. Still waiting for the follow up piece in the Guardian by the Trust. I know the typewriter firm on Hedon Rd went tits up but there is always a pen and paper. 

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#32
10/09/2018 at 07:50

Well, I don't happen to agree with you on this one Cheats. Geoff is doing his level best to make contact, but as you rightly say he isn't getting any joy. These two herberts don't want contact. Geoff has been on radio, tv and in the papers and basically anyone who does such a thing and mentions them they are outed straight away. Geoff has done a lot to bring some of their efforts such as lack of concessions to the top table. The Prem have already stated that if City did ever again get into their competition then they would been forced to bring back concessions. Makes you wonder why they didn't do this right at the outset. But I suppose like we all thought at the time, City would be going down sop why not wait until they go and save all the arguments.

I cant see what any outside group can do unless you go down the route of illegal protest. That wouldn't get the support of most of the groups, therefore you are out on a limb. Even that wouldn't probably have any success because these two would bring down the full force of the law. They just simply cant see that they are doing anything wrong albeit that nearly all City supporters have had enough. Theres only one way this will stop and that is when they finally get rid of the club.  

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RichardCheatham - City AFC

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10/09/2018 at 09:42

Sunn, they know what they are doing.

I have no doubt Bielby is trying, but it’s to no avail. They are laughing at him. The football authorities don’t give a shit.

As I say, where is the retort to the Guardian piece? Where is it? Anyone?

Then the Trust can fook off for me. It’s a pen and paper and 50p for a stamp.

I just read it’s 12quid to watch the U23s now. Hull gridlocked as people queue to buy tickets. Something for Geoff to have a natter about with when he next meets them, in 2020.

Fans lost the initiative a while back. It’s done, sadly. 

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10/09/2018 at 11:15

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 10/09/2018 at 09:42
Sunn, they know what they are doing.

I have no doubt Bielby is trying, but it’s to no avail. They are laughing at him. The football authorities don’t give a shit.

As I say, where is the retort to the Guardian piece? Where is it? Anyone?

Then the Trust can fook off for me. It’s a pen and paper and 50p for a stamp.

I just read it’s 12quid to watch the U23s now. Hull gridlocked as people queue to buy tickets. Something for Geoff to have a natter about with when he next meets them, in 2020.

Fans lost the initiative a while back. It’s done, sadly.


It isn't £12 quid to watch the under 23s. If, after having read what is happening, that is your interpretation then you would be no good at discussions and negotiations. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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10/09/2018 at 11:36

Bit cheeky but I’m not in tears. Reads 12quid on the Hull Tigers website. If having taken the time to criticise and still got it wrong maybe you would be no good at “discussions and negotiations”. Haha.  

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10/09/2018 at 11:51

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 10/09/2018 at 11:36
Bit cheeky but I’m not in tears. Reads 12quid on the Hull Tigers website. If having taken the time to criticise and still got it wrong maybe you would be no good at “discussions and negotiations”. Haha.


Show me where it says tickets are £12 per game?  

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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10/09/2018 at 11:52

The card is £12 which includes a £6 voucher to spend in the club shop. So in effect it's £6 to see every home game the Development Squad play at Inglemire Lane. They play tonight v Watford, ko 7.00 pm.
Or if you are a passholder its free.
I think the first couple of games were £4 on the door and I'm assuming the walks ups dont even cover the cost of employing the staff to take the money.
I know buying a card is a messing about and not everyone wants to spend £6 in the club shop but if the pass was £12 for the season, without the voucher to spend in the shop it is still decent value IMO.

link; www.finesse-internet.co.uk/the-best-trip/ (THE BOOK THE CLUB REFUSED TO SELL). 

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10/09/2018 at 12:08

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 10/09/2018 at 11:51


Show me where it says tickets are £12 per game?


Show me where I said it was £12 a game. I doubt it is worth anything, not like it’s the old ressies playing. As above, how does a 6quid credit note help anyone to pay the milk bill, unless City are selling milk. I doubt you can buy a key ring for £6. 

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10/09/2018 at 12:46

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 10/09/2018 at 12:08


Show me where I said it was £12 a game. I doubt it is worth anything, not like it’s the old ressies playing. As above, how does a 6quid credit note help anyone to pay the milk bill, unless City are selling milk. I doubt you can buy a key ring for £6.


You said it was £12 to watch the under 23s and made a facetious comment about gridlocks as people queued. That suggests you thought it was £12 a game otherwise you would have said a match card for £12 with £6 to spend and all the games included wasn't bad value though it was an unnecessary ball ache to get one.So you misread it and won't admit it or are so bad at expressing yourself you would be no good is discussions and negotiations. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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10/09/2018 at 13:10

Bollocks, frankly.

You’ve put a decent amount of effort to shore up you position. Nice one, but not necessary if you have a position. Suggests etc. So it’s not 12 quid to watch the U23s then? It’s a piece of piss to go to the KC and get a card before toddling back to Inglemire for a game of no relevance? And when did a 6 quid discount become legal tender. Maybe send your rancour to Hull City and the HDM who seem to report 12 quid. You jumped to conclusions about detail rather than the underlying, which was about the Allams continuing to be wanksters.

Think you know that but feel free to “suggest” otherwise. 

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10/09/2018 at 15:03

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 10/09/2018 at 13:10
Bollocks, frankly.

You’ve put a decent amount of effort to shore up you position. Nice one, but not necessary if you have a position. Suggests etc. So it’s not 12 quid to watch the U23s then? It’s a piece of piss to go to the KC and get a card before toddling back to Inglemire for a game of no relevance? And when did a 6 quid discount become legal tender. Maybe send your rancour to Hull City and the HDM who seem to report 12 quid. You jumped to conclusions about detail rather than the underlying, which was about the Allams continuing to be wanksters.

Think you know that but feel free to “suggest” otherwise.


You were wrong but won't admit it. Fine. I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

They didn't report it was £12 quid to watch them. They said you had to buy a card for £12. You got the wrong end of the stick. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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#42
10/09/2018 at 20:59

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 10/09/2018 at 07:20


Who did the billboard then National if HCST isn’t a protest group?

I might be wrong but the last time Bielby put a suit and tie on for his tea n buscuits with the Allams was December 2017. Twice a year indeed and Supporters Direct well briefed - wonder3d why the Allams are followed by a portaloo, they must be shitting themselves.

As I say, thankless task and their endeavour is appreciated, but it’s a fruitless effort so far, OSC with different mugs for £4.99,get em early for Xmas.

Football authorities are spineless across the globe. Run by fans who secure themselves free entry and the best seats. Match fixing, cheating, they don’t need fans unless it’s a family of four buying high priced hotdogs and some crappy thing with a club logo on it.

Allams are taking the piss and no one is making an issue of it. Still waiting for the follow up piece in the Guardian by the Trust. I know the typewriter firm on Hedon Rd went tits up but there is always a pen and paper.


To be fair, the billboard poster was a Trust initiative, but the purpose was just to highlight how dense the Allams are, using their own words.

I totally agree, the FSF and SD sniffing around the club on the Trust's behalf are highly unlikely to disrupt the Allam steamroller.

But the Allams won't engage with the Trust - and the Trust can't go to war on the club.

Realistically speaking, anyway. 

Now then... 

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11/09/2018 at 14:24

That’s what I’m saying.

Write a piece pointing out the gross errors and lies in the Ehab Guardian shite. Saying the fans don’t understand.... maybe recall the infamous “di smaller di name di more biggly di profits” Allam motto as endorsed by Harvard.... Pete Harvard off Sculcoates that is.

Either represent the fans/club or don’t, and they don’t, not now anyway. 

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11/09/2018 at 14:32

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 10/09/2018 at 15:03


You were wrong but won't admit it. Fine. I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

They didn't report it was £12 quid to watch them. They said you had to buy a card for £12. You got the wrong end of the stick.


Ah yeah. I apologise unreservedly.

You see I thought you had to pay £12 to get to watch the U23s when in actual fact it’s free, so long as you get one of those card thingys, and hand over 12 quid. An easy mistake to make. Notwithstanding, it’s not actually 12 quid anyway as you can jump on a no.
76 and ask for a single to Cod Liver Oil and say you have 6 quid discount at Tiger Leisure and you want to use that for payment. See how that goes.

I guess Green Shield Stamps don’t exist anymore or they would be chucking them in the pot too.

The one assumption I did make was that it was free anyway. If it wasn’t, who would pay to watch it unless you have your kids playing.

Going out on a limb here, but I submit the objectives of the owners of the club might be questionable.

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15/09/2018 at 18:20

Owners are cunts, let's not argue among ourselves.

FUCK OFF ALLAMS 

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