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KingstonKid

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#46
13/07/2018 at 12:13

I reckon that Henderson, Kane and Ali were all well off the necessary required fitness levels but they didn't want to miss the big game.
That in my opinion proved to be our weakness for the duration of the game plus extra time.
Ashley Young also struggled to maintain energy and Danny Rose should have come on much earlier. 

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13/07/2018 at 13:17

VAR may, in time, develop into to something like the officials for American Football. Though the referee in the middle with the whistle has the final say, any rule breach is brought to his attention by any of the other six looking for a specific violation. A big may, for one thing, how long would the game last?

Kent Walton probably did pick up on the illegal throws occurring in the box, and pointed out to FIFA that we have got all of this on tape. Do we bring it to the attention of the referee or let it be a continuing contentious issue? Or were the referees instructed to, pre-match, finally tell the players "A penalty WILL be given"?

As for the rolling and diving, who was the clown that kicked the ball into his face off the post? Comic value aside, anywhere else and by anybody else he would have collapsed to the floor, while his team mates ran around waving cards.

Time wasting by any means, parking the bus to get a draw, or at least not hammered 6-0, was the game plan for the pub teams that qualified. And they are going to let more of the useless fuckers have a go soon.

Southgate gave the ressies a chance against Belgium. It didn't work, save we ended up the right side of the draw. I wonder how the Belgian lad feels now after scoring his worldy to beat us? if I was Martinez I would have asked the lad "what the fook were you thinking of?"

Yes all that, and I still enjoyed it. A young team with, hopefully, a few to come through for either the euros or definitely the next world cup.

edit ps Aspalls Premier Cru three for a fiver in Tescos 7.2%. A fiver well spent. 

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13/07/2018 at 16:50

I cant help but keep thinking that our expectations really have hit rock bottom. We are England, not Luxembourg. Bright spots were H and the way Southgate & the team conducted themselves. Besides that, come on, get a grip.  

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13/07/2018 at 18:10

Ruddy Nora, I have to pay £8 a bottle, no discounts or group offers allowed.

Driffield old bean, I'm not sure how your, or Cheat's, expectations could be anything but rock bottom.


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14/07/2018 at 02:59

Quote Quote by Driff_Tiger on 13/07/2018 at 16:50
I cant help but keep thinking that our expectations really have hit rock bottom. We are England, not Luxembourg. Bright spots were H and the way Southgate & the team conducted themselves. Besides that, come on, get a grip.


We are Hull City. We are England. We are 50+. We have learned to manage our expectations. We have realistic expectations, unlike the manic media. We have seen it all before. We don't cry in defeat in the biggest game ever. We shrug, we think, "Typical City/England", we go home and come back the week after. Sometimes we win against expectations. Sometimes we get surprised. We know there's a hole in the ground just round the corner. 

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14/07/2018 at 11:01

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 14/07/2018 at 02:59


We are Hull City. We are England. We are 50+. We have learned to manage our expectations. We have realistic expectations, unlike the manic media. We have seen it all before. We don't cry in defeat in the biggest game ever. We shrug, we think, "Typical City/England", we go home and come back the week after. Sometimes we win against expectations. Sometimes we get surprised. We know there's a hole in the ground just round the corner.


Agree 100%.
But i dont get these "we exceeded expectaitons" stuff. My expectations were realistic and pretty low. We didnt beat anyone of note. We struggled past Tunisia. We got beat by Belgium and Croatia. By good fortune we somehow got to the semis. We didnt get there by performance or results that exceeded expectations, we got therre as our route was made easy. In terms of performances and results, at best we matched my low expectations, and thats being kind. But there are positives looking forward. 

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14/07/2018 at 11:35

It's certainly not the finished product and no-one sensible is claiming that. The winds of change have blown through the England camp and that is what many are celebrating.


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14/07/2018 at 12:49

They absolutely are claiming that. It’s coming home, in 4 years, blah blah.

TOP and Driff have the baton. We beasted the mighty Tunisia for the first 20 mins. After that, not much. Since just exactly when did England think it ok to lose to nations like Belgium and Croatia? Well, perhaps two years ago after Iceland, but that’s beside the point.

England walked into the 2000s at long last, engaging with journos. Triffic. Maybe they will learn how to say “third” and “thought” etc rather than the now acceptable street speak.

I’m pleased it was not a debacle but that doesn’t mean they are one step away from being any good. Southgate was naive. Not exactly what we need.

Frankly, I don’t care too much. Been here before and won’t get here again in my lifetime, but winning the World Cup isn’t what it was either.

Here’s how fooked up foota is, Chelsea appointed Zola as assistant to their new 3-month coach. Zola, a serial failure in management yet a multi, multi millionaire no doubt. Does everyone get an extra public holiday if Harry wins the Golden Penalty Boot?  

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essexgull

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14/07/2018 at 13:13

It's coming home was a joke started for this tournament because England were perceived to have little chance of getting out the group, Cheats old bean. It was ironic. It surprises me how many foreigners like yourself didn't understand this and thought it was genuine.


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14/07/2018 at 13:45

Quote Quote by Driff_Tiger on 14/07/2018 at 11:01


Agree 100%.
But i dont get these "we exceeded expectaitons" stuff. My expectations were realistic and pretty low. We didnt beat anyone of note. We struggled past Tunisia. We got beat by Belgium and Croatia. By good fortune we somehow got to the semis. We didnt get there by performance or results that exceeded expectations, we got therre as our route was made easy. In terms of performances and results, at best we matched my low expectations, and thats being kind. But there are positives looking forward.


It's the stage we reached, for the first time in 28 years. We won on penalties for the first time. History will say we reached the semi-finals. Most of those you'd classify as "anyone of note" packed up and went home before we had chance to play them. Germany, Spain, Argentina, Portugal all went out to supposedly lesser opposition. Italy and Holland didn't make the party. 

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14/07/2018 at 16:18

Quote Quote by essexgull on 14/07/2018 at 13:13
It's coming home was a joke started for this tournament because England were perceived to have little chance of getting out the group, Cheats old bean. It was ironic. It surprises me how many foreigners like yourself didn't understand this and thought it was genuine.


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Football's Coming Home was a song to mark the fact a tournament was being held in England for the first time since 1966. Nothing to do with winning the World Cup, or anything else.
An unfortunate time 1996 given the sort of people that latched on to football at that time. At least when tournaments come around. The sort whose celebrations are all about "look at me!" whilst they sing songs they have no idea about. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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14/07/2018 at 16:29

That was why the song was written in 1996.

It was used originally for this tournament at the beginning as a piss-take, then as a sign of surprise as England exceeded expectations..

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14/07/2018 at 16:55

Quote Quote by essexgull on 14/07/2018 at 16:29
That was why the song was written in 1996.

It was used originally for this tournament at the beginning as a piss-take, then as a sign of surprise as England exceeded expectations..

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I know that was why the song was written in 1996. I assumed everyone would associate my references and put them together. It has been used by the post Euro 96 and PL types ever since. One of the reasons I don't watch in the pub now is to escape being surrounded by these idiots. A prime example being one when England were playing in a subsequent tournament when someone quickly supped his pint and started to leave. When his mate asked where he was going he said after the substitution they had just made there were no Man Utd players left on the pitch so there was no point watching anymore. 

Post edited on 14/07/2018 at 16:57 by Hulltim8 City AFC

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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#59
14/07/2018 at 17:55

It is the best football song by a massive distance. I gather there were lyric changes for the 1998 version, but it still works. 

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#60
14/07/2018 at 20:44

Re the golden boot Harry Kane scenario: yes he’s a poacher, and can score goals in the Prem for tottingham, but either he’s carrying an injury or he’s ran out of steam for 92 games this season, but aside from his 2 taps ins and penalty’s his work rate re running off the ball/creating space/ wanting the ball from midfield / chasing defenders down was non existent. Today he was catching more flies open mouthed than doing anything productive. It got that bad that Hoddle actually mentioned it.
With him being captain, he will not be dropped or subbed but he was shite today.
Media is all frothed up over him, but watching him walking today and fluffing his lines in the semi I feel for Vardy/Ratchford.
Probs tin hat time but he looked jaded and the goals mask a lot, for me anyway.
I’m gonna throw this open to the panel
Thanks 

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