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Thunder

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05/11/2017 at 14:26

I've watched a lot of football on telly this week and, other than Celtic, I think I've seen just one team without a poppy shirt. Uk

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05/11/2017 at 14:50

Not bothered myself this year either.


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05/11/2017 at 15:11

Support your local Quisling old bean? 

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05/11/2017 at 16:19

Quisling stayed in the country to make the best deal with the enemy to protect an already defeated nation from further harm.

The Royal Family and other wealthy politicians did a runner to the safety of the UK, until the war was over.

Don't always believe the version of history you are told.


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05/11/2017 at 16:39

http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull- east-yorkshire-news/hull-city-players-did nt-poppies-731051

Hull City has revealed why none of the club's players wore shirts with the poppy emblem in the last game before Remembrance Sunday.

Some fans were left puzzled when City players appeared on the pitch wearing shirts without the red flower during Saturday's 4-1 defeat at Sheffield United.

However, the club has now revealed it is tradition for them to only wear the poppy on home shirts, with a full Remembrance Day commemoration planned for the next home game at the KCOM Stadium against Ipswich Town.

A spokesman for Hull City said: "Our dedicated Remembrance game is on November 18 against Ipswich Town.

"We have already spoken to the Hull branch of the Royal British Legion and we have arranged for The Last Post and a minute's silence."

Due to the international break falling on Remembrance weekend, some clubs, including Hull City, have to wait two weeks for their next home fixture.

Although the game against Ipswich Town will take place almost a week ago after Remembrance Sunday, the club plans to use this match as an opportunity to remember fallen heroes and raise money for the Royal British Legion.

The spokesman said: "We always dedicate a home fixture every season and t's always the one that is the nearest to November 11.

"We then auction off the home shirts with the poppies on and all the money raised is donated to the Royal British Legion." 

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Hulltim8 City AFC

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05/11/2017 at 17:53

Quote Quote by essexgull on 05/11/2017 at 16:19
Quisling stayed in the country to make the best deal with the enemy to protect an already defeated nation from further harm.

The Royal Family and other wealthy politicians did a runner to the safety of the UK, until the war was over.

Don't always believe the version of history you are told.


ESSEX GULL


Well, you believe a distorted version of history.

Presumably the Norwegians were grateful for this noble act on his part. How did they reward him? 

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Hulltim8 City AFC

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05/11/2017 at 17:54

Quote Quote by essexgull on 05/11/2017 at 14:50
Not bothered myself this year either.


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No surprise there. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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essexgull

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05/11/2017 at 18:25

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 05/11/2017 at 17:53


Well, you believe a distorted version of history.

Presumably the Norwegians were grateful for this noble act on his part. How did they reward him?


They shot him, whilst the Royal family and powerful families in exile were treated as heros. Meanwhile, hundreds of wealthy business owners who worked with the Germans, had their pasts forgotten as they were seen vital for the rebuilding.

The fact is that the Russians were far more of a danger to Norway than Hitler. Hitler had next to no interest in controlling Scandinavia. Norway was invaded initially purely because the Germans needed the seaport of Narvik to export Swedish iron ore. They had to control the other sea ports to prevent the Allies from closing down this exit point.

The invasion was tactical, rather than for land gain. The political situation for Norway at the time was to either be with Hitler or with Stalin, as the Allies had their focus elsewhere. Quisling thought that Norway would be better off under Hitler, so chose his side.. Wrongly. But at least he stayed and chose a side, rather than going into exile and waiting to pick the winner.

He clearly was in the wrong, but my opinion is that the coward tag isnt entirely fair. Would he have been better off to have continued a war against the greatest military power at the time and wiped out a million underarmed and under trained Norwegians?


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05/11/2017 at 18:32

Quote Quote by essexgull on 05/11/2017 at 16:19
Quisling stayed in the country to make the best deal with the enemy to protect an already defeated nation from further harm.

The Royal Family and other wealthy politicians did a runner to the safety of the UK, until the war was over.

Don't always believe the version of history you are told.


ESSEX GULL


Oh dear!

At least Pétain had a distinguished military career (time to watch 'Paths of Glory' again).

Quisling had nothing, not a sausage, bugger all... and is justifiably reviled.

Ta. 

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05/11/2017 at 18:39

I don't entirely disagree, I just don't think it was as black and white as that at the time.


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05/11/2017 at 22:30

Quote Quote by RonGuv 66 on 05/11/2017 at 16:39
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull- east-yorkshire-news/hull-city-players-did nt-poppies-731051

Hull City has revealed why none of the club's players wore shirts with the poppy emblem in the last game before Remembrance Sunday.

Some fans were left puzzled when City players appeared on the pitch wearing shirts without the red flower during Saturday's 4-1 defeat at Sheffield United.

However, the club has now revealed it is tradition for them to only wear the poppy on home shirts, with a full Remembrance Day commemoration planned for the next home game at the KCOM Stadium against Ipswich Town.

A spokesman for Hull City said: "Our dedicated Remembrance game is on November 18 against Ipswich Town.

"We have already spoken to the Hull branch of the Royal British Legion and we have arranged for The Last Post and a minute's silence."

Due to the international break falling on Remembrance weekend, some clubs, including Hull City, have to wait two weeks for their next home fixture.

Although the game against Ipswich Town will take place almost a week ago after Remembrance Sunday, the club plans to use this match as an opportunity to remember fallen heroes and raise money for the Royal British Legion.

The spokesman said: "We always dedicate a home fixture every season and t's always the one that is the nearest to November 11.

"We then auction off the home shirts with the poppies on and all the money raised is donated to the Royal British Legion."


This is more than a bit of a dodgy statement.

I recall bidding on shirts worn by the team at an away game at Southampton with the poppy on. If there is a decent journo left in the Hull region they should follow up on this. I think the Egyptian clan may have tried to circumvent a bit of football tradition, you know, like concessions for kids and OAPs, that type of thing.

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06/11/2017 at 08:08

Why is it dodgy?

Besides, it's all yet another example of this country gone f'in mad.
I 100% agree with Remembrance Sunday. And 11/11 at 11.
It's right that the country stops, reflects, pays respect on Remembrance Sunday and on the 11/1.
But not at a friggin football match on a different day and different time. And multiple times.
And not by having footballers wearing shirts with poppies woven into them.
I don't need, and in fact don't want to be at a game of football when I remember.
I don't want it imposed on me at the wrong time.
I don't want it imposed on me several times during a fortnight.
I certainly don't want it to 2 Saturdays (Fridays whenever) running.
It's all madness and even devalues it.
Remembrance Sunday and 11/11 are appropriate.
I don't mean for one moment to offend, but this and similar annoy me. And now we end up with dispute about stupid things like 'why didn't xxx club wear a poppy on xxx date' blah f'in blah. It's ridiculous.  

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06/11/2017 at 08:12

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we wore them at Preston in 2010 - two months after he bought the club - they just cant help lying can they 

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06/11/2017 at 08:22

Quote Quote by RichardCheatham - City AFC on 05/11/2017 at 22:30


This is more than a bit of a dodgy statement.

I recall bidding on shirts worn by the team at an away game at Southampton with the poppy on. If there is a decent journo left in the Hull region they should follow up on this. I think the Egyptian clan may have tried to circumvent a bit of football tradition, you know, like concessions for kids and OAPs, that type of thing.



we wore than for Southampton at home in 1 November 2014 but also Burnley away on 8 November  

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06/11/2017 at 09:07

Quote Quote by Driff_Tiger on 06/11/2017 at 08:08
Why is it dodgy?
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It implies the reason there was no poppy on the shirt (like all other British professional clubs) was because they use the home game to show respect. That, as Charon has indicated, is untrue.

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