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10/10/2017 at 00:47

MOST DIFFERENT SCORERS IN A GAME

The original remit for this was Most City Scorers In A Game. This was when I expected the Birmingham goal to be given as an own-goal, but that looks unlikely now, so there'll only be six scoring City players in the game, rather than seven. In any case, researching scorers of opposition goals is almost impossible before the cut-off dates on Soccerbase, and so accounting for goals City players scored for other teams would have been impossible for most of league history. The upshot of all this is that the remit is now Most Scorers For City In A Game. This does include own-goals in a number of games.

I wanted to be sure that I accounted for all games in which we scored four goals or more. The 7-0 win against Barnsley in 1964 included only two scorers (Chilton 4, Henderson 3) and the 8-4 against Whitby only had three (Darby 6, Peacock, Mann).

It appears we have had four or more different scorers in a game 116 times. Only two of those have gone on to become six different scorers, while there have been five 21 times.

I've listed all the occurrences of five or more different scorers, but will omit the fours, although there will be observations that include the fours.

Five Or More Different City Scorers (23 occurrences)
(For six scorers, see 1939 and 2017)

1911 5-1 Bradford PA - 5

1931 6-3 Rochdale - 5
1932 FA CUP 8-2 Stalybridge - 5
1933 6-1 Carlisle - 5 (1 og)
1933 5-4 Plymouth - 5 (1 og)
1938 10-1 Southport - 5
1939 11-1 Carlisle - 6 **********

1950 FA CUP 5-0 Southport - 5
1951 5-3 Luton - 5
1958 9-0 Oldham - 5

1962 5-2 Bristol R - 5
1965 6-1 Bristol R - 5 (1 og)
1966 6-0 Workington - 5 (1 og)

1973 6-2 Preston - 5

1983 7-0 Stockport - 5

2001 5-1 Cheltenham - 5 (1 og)
2001 FA CUP 5-2 Northwich - 5 (1 og)
2003 6-1 Kidderminster - 5
2003 5-1 Northampton - 5
2008 5-0 Southampton - 5

2013 6-0 Fulham - 5
2014 FA CUP 5-3 Sheffield Utd - 5
2017 6-1 Birmingham - 6 **********


Things 1

1. In January 1909, City beat Leeds City 4-1 and Barnsley 4-0 in consecutive home league games, with four different scorers in each. Only one player, Arthur Temple, scored in both. City scored another four against Derby in the next home league game, but only three players scored in that one.

2. During the 1930-31 season, City beat Halifax 10-0 at home on Boxing Day. The next two league games and an FA Cup game produced disappointing results, but on January 17th, City beat Doncaster 8-2 at home. In the Halifax game, Simon Raleigh scored 5, Eric Longden 2, and the others came from Stan Alexander and Dally Duncan. The same four players were the scorers against Doncaster, this time with 3 for Raleigh and 2 more for Longden. In the next game, City beat Chesterfield 4-0, with goals yet again from Raleigh, Dally Duncan, Alexander, and, this time, Anthony Weldon. It meant that they'd had four or five different scorers in three out of five league games. Raleigh scored 10 goals in the five games. There were also four scorers in two other games that season, making a total of five occurrences, the most yet. They chalked up 99 goals but only finished sixth. In 1934 Raleigh was playing for Gillingham against Brighton and died from a brain haemorrhage after a clash of heads. The Brighton player, Paul Mooney, was so horrified that he immediately gave up playing football.

3. Several years have included multiple occurrences, and here's a summary:
5 times in 1966
4 times in 193, 48, 52, 65, 84
3 times in 1905, 09, 51, 85, 2001, 03
2 times in 1919, 28, 30, 33, 35, 38, 39, 58, 67, 69, 70, 73, 83, 94, 2002, 06, 16, 17 so far.

4. In 1934-5, City had four different scorers in the home wins over Nottingham Forest (5-0) and Notts County (5-1). Wright (not that one) and Acquroff scored in both.

5. In 1951-2, City had four different scorers in the away game against Coventry City (4-1) and the home game against Coventry City (5-0). Gerrie and Moore scored in both.

6. In March 1964, City had four scorers in the 4-4 draw at home to Bristol City. This appears to be the only instance of it happening in a game we didn't win.

7. In September 1966, City beat Norwich 5-0 at home and three days later beat Northampton 6-1 at home. These were consecutive games and each had four different scorers. Chilton scored two in each. Wagstaff and Butler also scored in both.

8. In 1967, City beat Plymouth 4-2 at home in the February and 5-2 away in the October. No City player scored more than once in either game.

9. In November 2001, there were five different scorers in the games against Cheltenham (5-1) and Northwich Victoria (5-2). Both included an own goal.

10. On consecutive weekends in 2003, City had five different scorers in the 6-1 home win against Kidderminster and five again in the 5-1 away win over Northampton. Burgess and Allsopp scored in both. They beat title rivals Swansea 1-0 on the Tuesday inbetween.

11. In case you wondering how City's sixes compare to the rest of the universe, in 1974 Liverpool won a European cup tie 11-0 against Norwegian club Strømsgodset and nine players scored.


Here are the scores and scorers in City's highest scoring games, irrespective of numbers of scorers.

City Scores of Seven or More (16 occurrences)

1939 11-1 Carlisle - 6 scorers - Dickinson 3, Cunliffe 2, Hubbard 2, Davies, Robinson, Richardson.

1930 10-0 Halifax - 4 scorers - Raleigh 5, Longden 2, D.Duncan, Alexander (Stan, not Gary).
1938 10-1 Southport - 5 scorers - Pears 3, Davies 2, Hubbard 2, MacNeill, Fryer.
1919 10-3 Wolves - 4 scorers - Mercer 4, Stevens 3, Morrall 2, Wright (yes, that one).

1958 9-0 Oldham - 5 scorers - Bradbury 3, Smith 3, Clarke, Bulless, Cripsey.

1953 8-0 Oldham - 4 scorers - Ackerman 4, Crosbie 2, Horton, Harris.
1905 8-1 FA CUP Grimethorpe Utd - 4 scorers - Joe Smith 3, Howe 2, Wilson 2, Robinson.
1931 8-2 Doncaster - 4 scorers - Raleigh 3, Longden 2, D.Duncan, Alexander.
1932 8-2 FA CUP Stalybridge Celtic - 5 scorers - Wainscott 4, McNaughton, Forward, Sargeant, Hill.
1996 8-4 (aet) FA CUP Whitby - 3 scorers - Darby 6, Mann, Peacock.

1909 7-0 Birmingham - 4 scorers - Temple 3, Jack Smith 2, Wally Smith, A.Browell.
1964 7-0 Barnsley - 2 scorers - Chilton 4, Henderson 3.
1983 7-0 Stockport - 5 scorers - Flounders 3, Mutrie, G.Roberts, Skipper, Askew.
1913 7-1 Wolves - 4 scorers - Halligan 4, O'Connell, Stevens, Lee.
1994 7-1 Crewe - 4 scorers - Brown 3, Windass 2, Peacock, Dewhurst.
1997 7-4 Swansea - 4 scorers - Darby 3, Mann 2, Rioch, Hodges.

City have scored 6 in a game 18 times.


Things 2

1. As a reminder: City and Aston Villa have reached double figures four times in league matches, but Birmingham (usually in their Small Heath guise) have done it five times. These three lead the 10+ table.

2. Hubbard and Davies both scored in double-figure scores in consecutive seasons (1938, 1939). Nobody else has done this for us. It's inevitably a rarity for players at all clubs. Small Heath had 12-0 and 10-2 wins in their first two league seasons (1892-3, 1893-4) and it's known that a player called Frank Mobley scored three in each.

3. Oldham suffered 9-0 and 8-0 against us in the 1950s; these are our 5th and 6th best scores. Wolves have been beaten 10-3 and 7-1. The 10-3 result included the most goals scored in a City game. Eight games have had ten or more goals scored in them, all going in our favour.

4. Three of the five times City have scored 8 goals have been in cup games against non-league teams, although one (Stalybridge Celtic) had been a league team a decade earlier. The 8-4 win against Whitby included Duane Darby's six goal-haul - a City record - that, perhaps uniquely, included goals in all four periods of the game, after it went to extra time.

5. All of City's top 16 scores have included at least one hat-trick, and three have had two.

6. David Mercer, who scored four in the 1919 10-3 win against Wolves, played for City in war competitions during the first world war. In a game against Sheffield United, in early 1919, Mercer had scored six goals for City, but the referee stopped the game early due to the bad conditions, thereby nullifying his tally. When the game was replayed, it ended a miserable 1-1. In 1920, Mercer was bought by Sheffield United. He played twice for England, scoring once, and played in the 1925 FA Cup final when the Blades beat Cardiff 1-0.

7. O'Connell, who scored in the 7-1 Wolves game in 1913, went on to manage Barcelona, as you all know.

8. A little off topic: in 1910 City beat West Brom 5-1. The scorers were all Smiths; Jack Smith bagged a hat-trick, while Joe Smith (also known as "Stanley" Smith) and Wally Smith managed one each. 

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#2
11/10/2017 at 00:11

I've just spotted a 7-1 I missed earlier.

1921 7-1 Stoke - 3 scorers - Mills 4, Flood 2, Coverdale.

This makes 17 scores of 7 or more, rather than 16, and is the joint 14th best. 

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#3
15/10/2017 at 19:08

TOP stats! 

Now then... 

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15/10/2017 at 19:26

Appreciated.


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15/10/2017 at 19:44

Amazing that we are right up there in terms of double figure scoring, splendid, and even more so we never had to be called Hull Tiggers to achieve it 

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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