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Obadiah

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16/07/2019 at 16:59

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Seeing as my only criticism on this thread specifically referred to people not born there, I haven't done what you claim. In the case of Ilhan Omar, she did exactly what I said, and was not born in the USA. All four are campaigning for totally open borders there, and are incapable of coherent argument.


The world exists outside this thread. What is Fun in the USA except a huge whinge about US politics? Where you born there? Do you live there? What gives you a greater right to criticise the US than Ihan Omar? At least she's an elected representative.

It can't be because she criticises the Trump border policy because you believe in free speech. You've posted hundreds of videos to prove it. 

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16/07/2019 at 17:15

She's a politician for the opposition.. It's her job to criticise, do you expect her to sit in silence or agreement. For someone who has written a lot about snowflakes and freedom of speech, you seem to be easily triggered. How about letting her say what she wants and allow the public to decide if they agree with her or not.

Libertarian, my harris!


Stuff like this confirms my decision (and roughly a third of the people registered to vote in GE's) not to partake in the corrupt, circular charade of politics.

It's the opposition's 'job' to criticise? Really? Even if they know they're wrong? Are they not allowed to agree? That's truly pathetic.

Snowflake! Gammon! Libertarian! The string pullers are laughing their cocks off... 

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16/07/2019 at 19:25

It's two party politics. Been going on for centuries.

Similarly I don't vote nationally or locally, although vote in my union elections.



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16/07/2019 at 19:45

It's the opposition's 'job' to criticise? Really? Even if they know they're wrong? Are they not allowed to agree? That's truly pathetic.

One didn't get much opposition criticism in the Politburo. Is that what you hanker after?

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16/07/2019 at 23:02

Quote Quote by essexgull on 16/07/2019 at 19:25
It's two party politics. Been going on for centuries.

Similarly I don't vote nationally or locally, although vote in my union elections.



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I remember thinking what the fook, when I was 'made up' and swore a (drunken) oath of allegiance to the union I had to join to stay in my job, after apprenticeship. Worthy Chair and Brothers All - I recall the handbook advised you to not bash your Mrs... how quaint, I still have it somewhere.

Is there still a political levy to the Labour Party? Not that I minded then, but there ain't many Tony Crosslands about nowadays are there, amongst today's caricatures.

Worst advise I got from old big gob, the shop steward, was to always vote - whereas the opposite would have the effect of exposing the sham of two party politics that's apparently been going on for centuries. Actually, fat chance of that. Even though the same number of people don't use their vote as both the leading parties combined, they still carry on regardless.

My fault for reading too many clever French bastards instead of Parade, I suppose...

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17/07/2019 at 07:29

Quote Quote by I'm an alligator... on 16/07/2019 at 23:02


I remember thinking what the fook, when I was 'made up' and swore a (drunken) oath of allegiance to the union I had to join to stay in my job, after apprenticeship. Worthy Chair and Brothers All - I recall the handbook advised you to not bash your Mrs... how quaint, I still have it somewhere.

Is there still a political levy to the Labour Party? Not that I minded then, but there ain't many Tony Crosslands about nowadays are there, amongst today's caricatures.

Worst advise I got from old big gob, the shop steward, was to always vote - whereas the opposite would have the effect of exposing the sham of two party politics that's apparently been going on for centuries. Actually, fat chance of that. Even though the same number of people don't use their vote as both the leading parties combined, they still carry on regardless.

My fault for reading too many clever French bastards instead of Parade, I suppose...



It has its faults, it's over-bureaucratic, slightly dogmatic and leans to the equivalent of the Labour party and actually costs me money as my role isn't really protected by it, but it has maintained offshore wages higher than onshore ones and has demanded that safety procedures are significantly higher than the UK's and so helicopter and offshore accidents are less than a quarter of the UK's, so I support it, although am critical of aspects of it - I'm a voluntary member who has complaints and votes to change how I think will improve it.


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17/07/2019 at 14:05

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 16/07/2019 at 16:59


The world exists outside this thread. What is Fun in the USA except a huge whinge about US politics? Where you born there? Do you live there? What gives you a greater right to criticise the US than Ihan Omar? At least she's an elected representative.

It can't be because she criticises the Trump border policy because you believe in free speech. You've posted hundreds of videos to prove it.


Fun In The USA is largely a commentary on what's happening. It's about the illegal activities carried out by the Obamas/Clintons. It's not criticism of the USA and it's not whinging. It's what is happening. It's there to inform. I can't understand how you've missed that. 

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17/07/2019 at 19:29

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 17/07/2019 at 14:05


Fun In The USA is largely a commentary on what's happening. It's about the illegal activities carried out by the Obamas/Clintons. It's not criticism of the USA and it's not whinging. It's what is happening. It's there to inform. I can't understand how you've missed that.


Really? I must have missed that. I thought you wanted the swamp cleared? Isn't that having an opinion on what's happening in the US? Isn't it you giving yourself the right to comment on US politics whilst denying that right to others on this thread?

I see Trump was on the BBC news today touching some woman's backside at a party with Epstein. If Trump is about to backdown to Iran and is linked to Epstein I can see why he'd rather be arguing about race. 

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17/07/2019 at 19:56

How's about that anyone can complain and whinge if they choose? You're not obliged to listen or read it, Top old bean.


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17/07/2019 at 23:07

Hear, hear...

Or Heeeearrrrrrrrrrr heaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrr... as the Westminster shitgibbons go...

Me, I'd like to complain and whine about Boris the fucking retarded over-privileged totalcunt caracture, Trump-Clinton the mind numbingly shocking reality farce that envelops the world, Corbyn the Islington barbarian and his sad sack side show of deja fucking vu clowns for a kick off.

And don't get me started on the myopia surrounding the capitalist Animal Farm-like stench of the EU...

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18/07/2019 at 03:12

Quote Quote by essexgull on 16/07/2019 at 15:47


She's a politician for the opposition.. It's her job to criticise, do you expect her to sit in silence or agreement. For someone who has written a lot about snowflakes and freedom of speech, you seem to be easily triggered. How about letting her say what she wants and allow the public to decide if they agree with her or not.

Libertarian, my harris!


ESSEX GULL


Gordon Bennett, what is up with you lot?

I'm not talking about her criticising Trump or the Republicans. I'm talking about her general mendacious and disingenuous criticisms of a country that's given her a home and refuge from the troubles in her country of origin. I'm talking about her mandacious and disingenuous criticisms of the USA. 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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18/07/2019 at 09:57

I'm talking about her mendacious and disingenuous criticisms of the USA.

If the above is accurate, so what? Is it only white folk who are allowed to comment adversely on their country? How many generations must they have been in the country to be allowed to do so? Is the President allowed to spout mendacious and disingenuous lies about most things, just because he's President? Or because he's a white President?

ToP Trump?

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18/07/2019 at 13:42

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 18/07/2019 at 03:12

I'm talking about her mandacious and disingenuous criticisms of the USA.


Such as?


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Obadiah

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18/07/2019 at 20:38

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 18/07/2019 at 03:12


Gordon Bennett, what is up with you lot?

I'm not talking about her criticising Trump or the Republicans. I'm talking about her general mendacious and disingenuous criticisms of a country that's given her a home and refuge from the troubles in her country of origin. I'm talking about her mandacious and disingenuous criticisms of the USA.


What's up with me is fairly simple. You posted hours and hours of film demanding free speech and then when somebody exercises that right you criticise her for doing so.

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18/07/2019 at 21:36

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 18/07/2019 at 20:38


What's up with me is fairly simple. You posted hours and hours of film demanding free speech and then when somebody exercises that right you criticise her for doing so.



I didn't. I criticised her for being a stupid ingrate, for lying, for saying stupid things, and for not taking the obvious recourse. She can say whatever the hell she likes, but, like when everyone else opens their mouths, she runs the risk of being judged on it. 

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