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Hulltim8 City AFC

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#32
27/03/2019 at 12:43

Quote Quote by candw on 20/03/2019 at 10:27


"Most of their voters want a hard Brexit?" You can quote your reference for this statement?

TIG candidates were elected on Labour's manifesto and with the help of dedicated Labour workers. They weren't elected for their intrinsic worth. They are charlatans.


Was that the Labour manifesto which said it would honour the result of the referendum? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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27/03/2019 at 17:36

Quote Quote by candw on 20/03/2019 at 10:27


"Most of their voters want a hard Brexit?" You can quote your reference for this statement?

TIG candidates were elected on Labour's manifesto and with the help of dedicated Labour workers. They weren't elected for their intrinsic worth. They are charlatans.


Was that the Labour manifesto which said it would honour the result of the referendum? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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27/03/2019 at 22:44

Quote Quote by candw on 20/03/2019 at 10:27


"Most of their voters want a hard Brexit?" You can quote your reference for this statement?

TIG candidates were elected on Labour's manifesto and with the help of dedicated Labour workers. They weren't elected for their intrinsic worth. They are charlatans.


Was that the Labour manifesto which said it would honour the result of the referendum? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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28/03/2019 at 13:26

Every time I post on here, the site goes down, so apologies for the forthcoming... 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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28/03/2019 at 14:10

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 27/03/2019 at 22:44


Was that the Labour manifesto which said it would honour the result of the referendum?


Yes, I'm sure it was.

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28/03/2019 at 21:17

How do you manage it, ToP!

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29/03/2019 at 01:44

Quote Quote by candw on 28/03/2019 at 21:17
How do you manage it, ToP!


A good question, but not one I can answer.

Oh, darn, you've lured me in and here we go ag 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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02/04/2019 at 14:08

Where is the brexit debacle leading to now?

For all the vociferous remainers claims they haven't tipped a majority in Parliament or the country, their petition has fizzled out at 6M and many of those were repeat/bogus signatures. Yvette Cooper is trying hard to usurp power from the inept Corbyn. Splitters everywhere. I'm quite fascinated by the implosion of Parliament against the people's vote to leave.

We have no government yet no deal brexit remains a strong possibility, all options have chaos attached so we should now now go no deal with a new PM to negotiate all trade deals. How does Barnier not get any blame if we go no deal, surely the EU should sack their failed chief negotiator?

If it extends the EU elections would be interesting, UKIP would have had a landslide had they kept together.

Thoughts? 

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02/04/2019 at 14:31

My thoughts.

I'm guessing country still split 50/50, with a large portion of both sides even more entrenched in their decision, due to the behaviour of the other side.

Parliament isn't fit for purpose. I read that MPs will be getting a report this week explaining what a customs union, single market and trade tariffs would entail... This is 10 days before the supposed departure date. How has this not happened before with all the access to staff and researchers that MPs have. They are simply not fit for purpose - lazy, entitled, saying the right things to cling on to their role. If you employed a manager on 80k a year to run part of your company and after three years, they still didn't understand the basics and hadn't read all the documents, you'd fire them.

Probably now the best long term outcome for the UK wil be a no deal exit, the inevitable crash and economy shrinkage for a few years and then the ability to rebuild UK politics and economy. I doubt this will be allowed to happen. Probably another extension, May resigns, a general erection and the vote split again, meaning no majority government and the faeces continues.


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02/04/2019 at 16:58

Agree Gull, it's shambolic, carnage whichever way we go so with only 10 days a no deal has to be viable now. It would probably suit the EU as well not to have us in their faux-election, they'd bill us 5 or 6 billion, we could pay that off comfortably and the civil servants could lock themselves away in a room for 6 months and agree trade terms. Winners and losers in all scenarios. Lets go for it.  

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02/04/2019 at 21:10

We won’t leave 

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03/04/2019 at 09:33

Looks like May has decided to split the Tory Party in the interests of big business. If she can come to an agreement with Corbyn it is likely to get majority backing in the House of Commons and the Lords. A civil war within the Tory Party is likely to see a Labour victory at any election. We may even a national government to try and prevent that happening. I think its unlikely but stranger things happen at sea.

Interesting times. 

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03/04/2019 at 12:18

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 03/04/2019 at 09:33
Looks like May has decided to split the Tory Party in the interests of big business. If she can come to an agreement with Corbyn it is likely to get majority backing in the House of Commons and the Lords. A civil war within the Tory Party is likely to see a Labour victory at any election. We may even a national government to try and prevent that happening. I think its unlikely but stranger things happen at sea.

Interesting times.


In favour of Remaining, Richard Branson, the CBI, big business and middle class revolutionaries from Northampton. Against the EU, the late Tony Benn, Peter Shore and Dennis Skinner. Ironic to see the Northants octogenarian siding with those who think the likes of Dennis Skinner should be deselected because he voted the way his constituents voted, unlike so many in both the Conservative and Labour parties.No doubt the 3 Labour MPs in Hull who ignored the wishes of their constituents will be re-elected on the wonderful logic that their dad, grandad and great grandad voted Labour so they are no matter how useless or hypocritical the candidates are. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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03/04/2019 at 15:24

Quote Quote by The Prince of Munster on 02/04/2019 at 21:10
We won’t leave


If the ERG had signed up to May's deal, you'd be out now.


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03/04/2019 at 15:37

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 03/04/2019 at 09:33
Looks like May has decided to split the Tory Party in the interests of big business. If she can come to an agreement with Corbyn it is likely to get majority backing in the House of Commons and the Lords. A civil war within the Tory Party is likely to see a Labour victory at any election. We may even a national government to try and prevent that happening. I think its unlikely but stranger things happen at sea.

Interesting times.


We'll see how statesmanlike Corbyn is now Obi but I can't see him acting in the National interest, Labour MP's will get greedy and push Corbs who will push May too hard/too soft which might leave us with a no deal with Macron closing the door on us?

Civil wars have been rumbling in the Tory & Labour parties for quite a while, more Labour MP's have split from the core party than Tories so far.

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