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candw

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17/03/2019 at 13:59

I see it's along the free Coastal Path, refurbished with £2.1 million EU grant.

Sparsely attended because the rest of the Gammon Light Infantry are on manoeuvres readying for insurrection.

Amazing how Treeza can have 3 goes at passing off the same shite, but the people have only one.

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essexgull

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18/03/2019 at 18:52

It was shite in that it wasn't as economically good as the UK have had it so far being in the EU, but it did, however, offer an orderly Brexit resulting in the UK leaving the EU in the eyes of international law. The initial departure deal was nor will ever be as good as being a current member of the EU - future negotiations could have resolved this over the forthcoming years. It was purely a Withdrawal Agreement, written in very vague terms, which allowed decades of future negotiation on a multitude of terms and issues.

After 40 years of membership, with tens of thousands of laws and regulations tied together, it was as good as it could have got. I have lost all touch with the British public 'opinion', but if so many have been persuaded by Jacob Rees Mogg and Jeremy Corbyn that they personally could have got a better deal and so have pushed for May's deal to be rejected, idiocy has taken over.

As a result of this uncompromising hard Leave support, it looks less and less likely that the UK will brexit.

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18/03/2019 at 19:05

Farage is far more effective exposing cunts like Tusk, Barnier and Verhofstadt directly in Strasbourg then a daft gimmicky march.

If Brexit fails or extends then he'll be in the EU parliament giving them shit for years ahead.

Unsure which way its going now Gull after Berkow's statement, its a shambles, we have no leadership from any quarter, is a hard crash out back on the agenda now? Why do all the Labour MP's favour a soft brexit or second referendum? 

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19/03/2019 at 08:05

I said all along the UK will not leave the EU. The establishment don’t want to. It looks more and more likely I’ll be correct. 

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19/03/2019 at 15:30

Rees-Mogg and Corbyn are hardly pushing the same thing, are they? And Corbyn hasn't already made £7 million out of Brexit "problems".

Farage is a total charlatan and cunt. He attended 1 meeting out of 42 as a Fisheries committee member and was in the building but didn't vote on the 3 proposals to fix problems with the fishing policy. A salary, a pension and a fucking embarrassment to my country.

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essexgull

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19/03/2019 at 16:12

I don't see much of a difference between Corbyn and Farage. Both talk rubbish, know very little about what they pretend to, supercilious when called out on it, make false promises and play to their supporters. Just two sides of the same coin. British MPs are not fit for purpose.

The deal was there on the table, many now complaining that they haven't been given a third chance to vote for the same thing, so Brexit most likely cancelled/delayed. As it is, maybe not a bad thing, as the politicians who would be in charge of further negotiations just aren't up to it. They're simply not qualified for the job, nor interested in becoming so. Scamming the taxpayers for decades by saying the 'right' thing to stay in power.


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19/03/2019 at 16:28

Quote Quote by essexgull on 18/03/2019 at 18:52
It was shite in that it wasn't as economically good as the UK have had it so far being in the EU, but it did, however, offer an orderly Brexit resulting in the UK leaving the EU in the eyes of international law. The initial departure deal was nor will ever be as good as being a current member of the EU - future negotiations could have resolved this over the forthcoming years. It was purely a Withdrawal Agreement, written in very vague terms, which allowed decades of future negotiation on a multitude of terms and issues.

After 40 years of membership, with tens of thousands of laws and regulations tied together, it was as good as it could have got. I have lost all touch with the British public 'opinion', but if so many have been persuaded by Jacob Rees Mogg and Jeremy Corbyn that they personally could have got a better deal and so have pushed for May's deal to be rejected, idiocy has taken over.

As a result of this uncompromising hard Leave support, it looks less and less likely that the UK will brexit.

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How exactly have we been a member for 40 years when the EU hasn't been in existence that long?
We were previously members of the EEC and voted in a referendum to remain in it after being lied to about the long terms aims of the EEC, a trade bloc, to create a political union, by Wilson and Heath who knew full what the aims were. Never got a chance to alter the result like the Remainers think they should get after losing a referendum. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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Hulltim8 City AFC

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19/03/2019 at 16:30

Quote Quote by candw on 19/03/2019 at 15:30
Rees-Mogg and Corbyn are hardly pushing the same thing, are they? And Corbyn hasn't already made £7 million out of Brexit "problems".

Farage is a total charlatan and cunt. He attended 1 meeting out of 42 as a Fisheries committee member and was in the building but didn't vote on the 3 proposals to fix problems with the fishing policy. A salary, a pension and a fucking embarrassment to my country.


We have a Remainer in power and a Remainer leading the opposition. Hardly surprising it hasn't gone well. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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19/03/2019 at 18:48

Quote Quote by candw on 19/03/2019 at 15:30
Rees-Mogg and Corbyn are hardly pushing the same thing,
Farage is a total charlatan and cunt. A salary, a pension and a fucking embarrassment to my country.


I don't think Rees-Mogg is a cunt, though he's not a big player in this, Corbyn is a complete cunt and Farage can be a cunt but when he confronts bigger cunts in the European Parliament its worthy cuntery.

A lot of cabbages thrown at our MP's but what are the EU conceeding in negotiations, fuck all and they'll put a price on a delay. Best to crash out next week and spend the next year negotiating a trade deal, ditch May and give PM to Leadsom as Boris or Gove are too unpopular.  

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19/03/2019 at 18:52

Corbyn's a remainer? Only because his party wants him to be.

Anyway, I go with Tony Benn's position. The TWO exit will do me.

Or waiting another ten years till the whole house of cards collapses. 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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19/03/2019 at 19:03

Very few free thinkers like Benn amongst the Labour MP's TOP, they all seem to want soft brexit or remain which is not what most of their voters want. Corbyn just plays for a General Election all the time which he wont win if the Independent Group field candidates.  

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essexgull

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19/03/2019 at 19:27

What concessions do the EU have to give? The UK voted to leave, which they can with the May Deal, but they have to fulfil international obligations... The same as any business or political deal. The compromise that Leavers should be mature enough to realise is that any divorce is expensive but it's worth it in the long run.

I can't see how no deal is ever a good thing. The minority government can't agree on anything, how will they agree on future trade deals, where time is the essence before the economy falters.

The May deal is the safest and surest way to Brexit. Demands should be made why MPs have not voted for it.


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19/03/2019 at 22:42

Quote Quote by essexgull on 19/03/2019 at 19:27


The May deal is the safest and surest way to Brexit. Demands should be made why MPs have not voted for it.

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They didn't vote for it because its a bad deal. I can't really see why any MP could be expected to vote for it. 

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19/03/2019 at 23:01

Quote Quote by essexgull on 19/03/2019 at 19:27
What concessions do the EU have to give? The UK voted to leave, which they can with the May Deal, but they have to fulfil international obligations... The same as any business or political deal. The compromise that Leavers should be mature enough to realise is that any divorce is expensive but it's worth it in the long run.

I can't see how no deal is ever a good thing. The minority government can't agree on anything, how will they agree on future trade deals, where time is the essence before the economy falters.

The May deal is the safest and surest way to Brexit. Demands should be made why MPs have not voted for it.


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The No Deal deal would have been under WTO rules. It looked a whole load better to me than May's assorted appeasements. I reckon the May deal hasn't been getting support due to 75%/83% of MPs being remainers and wanting another referendum under the EU's if-they-get-it-wrong-make-them-vote-again -and-again-and-abloodygain-till-they-get- it-right law, which has previously squashed the will to live in several EU states.

Anyway, the EU authoritarians have pushed and pushed and pushed, and finally pushed that bit too far, and the natives don't like it. The EU is on its last legs and I, for one, will not be sorry when its knees give out and it keels to the floor and dies. 

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essexgull

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20/03/2019 at 10:01

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 19/03/2019 at 22:42


They didn't vote for it because its a bad deal. I can't really see why any MP could be expected to vote for it.


Because it is the only deal on the table that allows the UK to leave the EU safely and in the time frame that the UK determined.


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