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essexgull

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10/08/2018 at 13:40

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 10/08/2018 at 13:21


Did the police not follow up allegations against Christians because they were frightened of being thought
of as racist?

Say what you like about Amplethorpe, they make some excellent ciders.


You should know the answer better than me, you lived in Yorkshire through the period.

Sexual abuse wasn't taken seriously, mentally ill/addicted adults were seen as the sole architects of their own problems and ignored when they made complaints and children were seen as liars and fantasists. The authorities were reluctant to take on cases against the clergy because of the power and respect the clergy had.

I am sincerely surprised that the same level of anger is not being shown towards the institutions which allowed this and the people that did it. I guess that for the ignorant, it's difficult to comprehend an enemy that has the same skin colour, religious beliefs and culture as themselves, as it gives no easy answer or target to aim for and involves having to ask difficult questions about our culture, rather than point the finger.


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10/08/2018 at 13:58

Quote Quote by essexgull on 10/08/2018 at 13:40


You should know the answer better than me, you lived in Yorkshire through the period.

Sexual abuse wasn't taken seriously, mentally ill/addicted adults were seen as the sole architects of their own problems and ignored when they made complaints and children were seen as liars and fantasists. The authorities were reluctant to take on cases against the clergy because of the power and respect the clergy had.

I am sincerely surprised that the same level of anger is not being shown towards the institutions which allowed this and the people that did it. I guess that for the ignorant, it's difficult to comprehend an enemy that has the same skin colour, religious beliefs and culture as themselves, as it gives no easy answer or target to aim for and involves having to ask difficult questions about our culture, rather than point the finger.


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There are nutters in all religions. Catholics are nearly as intolerant and backwards as Muslims. Only difference is you don't get accused of racism and and been phobic for criticising it, or any other religion with one exception.

Went past Ampleforth yesterday. Put my foot down to be on the safe side. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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10/08/2018 at 14:55

To be honest, it's just one of the many contradictions that posters such as exiled, The Phantom and Ted have espoused on here over the years. It's not even the only one this week.

Having spent the last two years accusing anyone who has defended the rights of women and Muslims on here of being Social Justice Warriors, self-hating beta males and virtue signalling lefties, they've strangely just taken up the mantle of 'protecting Muslim womens'' rights by demanding that the burqa be banned.

It's incredibly odd that all these former EDL/BNP supporters have allegedly burned their Nazi flags and taken on the role of animal rights activists, womens rights protesters and free speech advocates, yet seemingly only have one target of their protests...


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10/08/2018 at 16:31

Quote Quote by essexgull on 10/08/2018 at 14:55
To be honest, it's just one of the many contradictions that posters such as exiled, The Phantom and Ted have espoused on here over the years. It's not even the only one this week.

Having spent the last two years accusing anyone who has defended the rights of women and Muslims on here of being Social Justice Warriors, self-hating beta males and virtue signalling lefties, they've strangely just taken up the mantle of 'protecting Muslim womens'' rights by demanding that the burqa be banned.

It's incredibly odd that all these former EDL/BNP supporters have allegedly burned their Nazi flags and taken on the role of animal rights activists, womens rights protesters and free speech advocates, yet seemingly only have one target of their protests...


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The numbers of the EDL/BNP are declining. They are leaving and joining the Labour party which is more in tune with their anti-semitic views. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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10/08/2018 at 20:25

Quote Quote by essexgull on 10/08/2018 at 14:55
To be honest, it's just one of the many contradictions that posters such as exiled, The Phantom and Ted have espoused on here over the years. It's not even the only one this week.

Having spent the last two years accusing anyone who has defended the rights of women and Muslims on here of being Social Justice Warriors, self-hating beta males and virtue signalling lefties, they've strangely just taken up the mantle of 'protecting Muslim womens'' rights by demanding that the burqa be banned.

It's incredibly odd that all these former EDL/BNP supporters have allegedly burned their Nazi flags and taken on the role of animal rights activists, womens rights protesters and free speech advocates, yet seemingly only have one target of their protests...


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Gull, like a lot still working from the old left vs. Right hymn sheet you are confused by modern centrist politics. I have never ever had anything to do with the BNP / EDL or whatever but I did go to catholic school and two half brothers went to Ampleforth. I resisted and became ‘a delinquent’ who went through the local catholic school system. I see absolutely NO difference between the abuse that went on there and the Muslim grooming gangs in fact the only difference it seems is it is the adherents not the imams doing the abusing. Both systems created the causal reasons for it being acceptable. Nothing at all to do with ethnicity and EVERYTHING around do with religion.

1) in Catholicism it is long established that it is the celibacy that causes the problem either through repression OR attracting the wrong sort to the cloth.

2) in Islam it is the doctrine itself that allows for the justification of underage sex, polygamy and the ‘other ring of the kafffir.

Islam also makes special claims for itself that leads to wider political issues in any non Islamic or secular society.

Why can’t you discuss them like an adult and free from juvenile name calling. This isn’t a college dorm or common room.  

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10/08/2018 at 21:18

Quote Quote by essexgull on 10/08/2018 at 14:55
To be honest, it's just one of the many contradictions that posters such as exiled, The Phantom and Ted have espoused on here over the years. It's not even the only one this week.

Having spent the last two years accusing anyone who has defended the rights of women and Muslims on here of being Social Justice Warriors, self-hating beta males and virtue signalling lefties, they've strangely just taken up the mantle of 'protecting Muslim womens'' rights by demanding that the burqa be banned.

It's incredibly odd that all these former EDL/BNP supporters have allegedly burned their Nazi flags and taken on the role of animal rights activists, womens rights protesters and free speech advocates, yet seemingly only have one target of their protests...


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Talking of contradictions, Corbyn usedto holiday in the GDR, McDonnell and others admired the US
SR yet they go on about unions and freedom of movement. Especially for Eastern Europeans, who weren't allowed freedom of movement under the regimes they admired. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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10/08/2018 at 21:40

And then they got that freedom and they came here. And they stayed. And those who bemoaned their lack of choice went fucking berserk and voted to leave the EU to stop that happening any more. And were rewarded with a fucking nearly black passport and the potential to buy spuds in lbs and oz.

Oh fuck, did they do hypocrisy? 

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11/08/2018 at 09:22

Quote Quote by candw on 10/08/2018 at 21:40
And then they got that freedom and they came here. And they stayed. And those who bemoaned their lack of choice went fucking berserk and voted to leave the EU to stop that happening any more. And were rewarded with a fucking nearly black passport and the potential to buy spuds in lbs and oz.

Oh fuck, did they do hypocrisy?


The middle class socialist warrior rolls into town. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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11/08/2018 at 12:28

I notice three Rochdale Men had their citizenship revoked this week after conviction for child exploitation...

Why is that not being reported?

Ampleforth got the whole day on LBC  

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11/08/2018 at 12:32

The police say that with ‘traditional’ paedo’s they know the motivation so they can disrupt their networks but with the ‘type 2’ Paedos - of predominantly Pakistani gangs they don’t know the motivation.

So not only does this NEW phenomena have to be accepted as new but it has to be researched, understood and tackled.

Dismissing it with equivalence is to not understand it nor what the police and authorities are asking permission to do. The establishment seems to be so scared of being called racist that it is paralysed OR it is actively complicit. Either way we need to know and not keep ourselves in the dark.  

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11/08/2018 at 14:30

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 11/08/2018 at 09:22


The middle class socialist warrior rolls into town.


Good reply. No shaming you Kippers is there? Bet you loved Boris' joke! Or would you call it solidifying a voting base? 

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11/08/2018 at 14:50

Did they actually say that exiled? They must be fucking thick.

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12/08/2018 at 09:18

Can’t you figure it out?

The paranoia due to PC culture has lead to the only way we can ask anything is to have a different culture Home Secretary and to pretend like we don’t know there are cultural differences. Everyone working on the ground knows what’s happening but this fucking establishment and many on here it seems won’t discuss anything unless some posh twat has done an enquiry.

Meanwhile people suffer in massive numbers.

The furore around BoJo’s comments are a case in point.

Utter fucking hysteria even though he was advocating liberal tolerance.

He wasn’t telling anyone what to wear he was saying how it appeared to him.  

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12/08/2018 at 09:20

PS you gov poll suggests >70% of the electorate disagree with BOJO

They want a ban.  

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12/08/2018 at 10:28

It is very strange to me that you and the usual others demand the legal right to total free speech, yet wish to deny the right of women to dress how they want.

It defies logic.


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