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26416 posts #16 | 5 a day co-ordinators were widely ridiculed on this site when you were just a boy. They were people whose job it was to advise child care groups and parent groups how comparatively easy and manageable a better diet could be. Of course, with our superfit population there was obviously no need for them. | |||||
11465 posts #17 | Well given one was a super expensive degree educated, pensioned desk jockey doing something useful about once a blue moon and the other cost the nation nothing and was providing a new service hitherto unavailable in the UK I would say the choice was easy. | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
26416 posts #18 | Considering that one tried to bring healthy eating to the fore and tho other assists couch potatoes to eat their snack without having to get off their fat arses except to open the door, the choice is easy. | |||||
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#19 | I think if you leave your front door open, they’ll happily deliver to your couch, CandW. | |||||
26416 posts #20 | And even help you sit up and open the box? | |||||
8890 posts #21 | Not far off drone deliveries now, so these Deliveroo-style businesses will be letting all their zero hours workers go anyway. 5-10 years left in the human cyclist delivery model probably. Several hundred thousand out of work, including the 300k or so taxi drivers. | |||||
26416 posts #22 | If only uni had been 3 years adding value to me. It was 3 years of having a fucking brilliant time. Being locked up over night for singing, whilst staggering, "Blue Moon" by the Marcelles, coming down Richmond Hill. And in the morning, tea, toast and a boiled egg and a fine of 5 shillings for d & d. Modern youth is so blessed. | |||||
11465 posts #23 | Never went and did my professional studies at night school whilst holding down a proper job. I always thought uni was a way of middle class parents re-socialising their kids after the madness of public school. | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
26416 posts #24 | How fucking sad is it that a few thousand years after Adam and Eve were thrown out of Eden, we still have to work 8+ hours a day to have any meaning to life? I manage really happily without 8 hours work and could have done for many years prior to that. | |||||
11465 posts #25 | Marx’s ideas on communism were based on a religious like leap-of-faith like the ‘automated communism’ idiots that suggested recently that soon we will be able to make everything out of nothing. | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
26416 posts #26 | I would advise you to compare the countries in which Communism has been declared with the conditions Marx deemed necessary to progress from Capitalism to Communism. You will then be able to stop making silly comments on the subject. | |||||
11465 posts #27 | The old.... | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
26416 posts #28 | Never mind. I didn't expect you to find out. Reading, eh? | |||||
11465 posts #29 | I read Marx and have read it again twice it still gets many assumptions wrong and takes leaps of faith. | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
8890 posts #30 |
You were lucky during a blessed era. I had some external pressures for the last two years of mine, which meant it was a stressful and unpleasant period, but many of my peers led a similar happy existence as students in the 1980s. My two British nephews haven't gone to university, which has upset my sister, but I understand why - 22 years old with a £40k debt, zero valid work experience and a large majority of undergraduate degrees not even contributing to a job application anymore - what's the point nowadays? Work those 3 years in a factory, doing as much overtime as you can to cover £23k a year and you're already £100k ahead of your age group at 22... You can still get drunk at the weekend and walk down Richmond Hill without the debt of being a student. I find it extremely odd that an unpaid internship is being painted as a terrible thing for a 20 year old in the UK media at the moment and the companies offering it are guilty of slave labour... but a university charging a 20 year old £33k for a three year degree, which they know will offer little in the way of future professional development escapes the condemnation... No problem with studying philosophy, history, art, theology etc. but has to be covered in the advertisement for it that it provides little commercial help and clearly should be done as an evening/weekend course. The pretense of these being a stepping stone is fraudulent. ESSEX GULL | |||||
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