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26/07/2018 at 15:45

Another day another Andrew Norfolk expose story in the Time of grooming gang cover-ups and fake news. Meanwhile the Time editorial finally prints what working class activists and parents caught up in this thing have been saying for years so a question...

Can you only raise concerns and be taken seriously if middle class in the UK?  

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26/07/2018 at 16:21

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 26/07/2018 at 15:45
Another day another Andrew Norfolk expose story in the Time of grooming gang cover-ups and fake news. Meanwhile the Time editorial finally prints what working class activists and parents caught up in this thing have been saying for years so a question...

Can you only raise concerns and be taken seriously if middle class in the UK?


No, its just more difficult for the working class to have a voice.

At least the Muslim abusers are getting convicted. The victims didn't have to wait until the abuser is dead before anything is said. I would have thought you would have posted about yesterday's news but sadly I waited in vain.

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26/07/2018 at 16:40

Exiled: the Nigel Farage of child abuse. 

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26/07/2018 at 16:42

The issue is that the institutional child abuse is being covered in the MSM the type 2 abuse is being actively covered up and outfits such as Just Yorkshire and MEND need calling out... 

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26/07/2018 at 16:46

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/ jul/26/aston-hall-hospital-derbyshire-pol ice-report-sexual-assault-claims-kenneth- milner

Lots of coverage and no facts left out....


Meanwhile Savid Javid has asked for research to find out what the drivers are for gang based grooming etc. Well what amazing facts will that unearth?

Why would the Bradford taxi drivers association fund a survey designed to discredit the local MP?

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26/07/2018 at 16:47

Here’s one that may not have hit the nationals...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri me/rochdale-imam-jailed-children-assault- beating-classes-abdul-rauf-court-a8427606 .html

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26/07/2018 at 16:49

THAT Andrew Norfolk? The Christian child forced to live with Muslims? With the photoshopped niqab on a woman at a park in Qatar? That lying racist cunt?

Another expose from him is as welcome as your ending of famine. 

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26/07/2018 at 16:51

Waqar Squeers? 

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26/07/2018 at 17:12

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 26/07/2018 at 16:46
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/ jul/26/aston-hall-hospital-derbyshire-pol ice-report-sexual-assault-claims-kenneth- milner

Lots of coverage and no facts left out....


Meanwhile Savid Javid has asked for research to find out what the drivers are for gang based grooming etc. What does that mean? Well what amazing facts will that unearth?

Why would the Bradford taxi drivers association fund a survey designed to discredit the local MP? Not all of us have looked carefully for Muslim crimes, so this makes no sense.


Kenneth Milner, who died in 1976, is thought to have carried out the abuse at Aston Hall psychiatric hospital in Derbyshire. Police said that if he were alive today, there would be “sufficient evidence” to interview him for offences including rape, indecent assault and child cruelty. Fourteen allegations of rape were made against him.

They are 40 years too late to charge him.

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26/07/2018 at 17:41

What is official is that my over-riding feeling, having just finished the 14th and final Bernie Gunther book, is that I hadn't read them at all, so I could go back and read them all again from scratch.

A hearty recommendation for anyone who likes crime, world-weary detectives and an interest in Germany from the 1930s - 1950s.



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26/07/2018 at 17:46

I've read a couple. Not sure I could fancy many more.

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26/07/2018 at 19:00

A couple of books?



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26/07/2018 at 21:24

Aha! One of them was about a Serb(?) girl, mistress of a General. And Switzerland was involved? Does that ring a bell?

No, books don't ring bells. 

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30/07/2018 at 21:36

Quote Quote by candw on 26/07/2018 at 16:49
THAT Andrew Norfolk? The Christian child forced to live with Muslims? With the photoshopped niqab on a woman at a park in Qatar? That lying racist cunt?

Another expose from him is as welcome as your ending of famine.


That ‘lying racist cunt’

And that illustrates exactly what is wrong with the hysterical left right there.

The Paul Foot award winning journalist was reporting accurately in the times. That some tabloids took to ‘cut and pasting’ his story along with photo-shopped picture allowed the hysterics to claim ‘fake news’ about real facts.

He meanwhile had NOTHING to do with that but you label him a liar and a racist. It’s daft cunts like you that will be to blame when the REAL racists show up and the word will be fucking useless. You hyperbole is like the teenager you were supposed to teach.

I never said famine had ended I posted about the decade old picture you posted and your decade old idea that the level of extreme poverty was increasing when it wasn’t.

Again why let a few facts get in the way of you being triggered... 

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31/07/2018 at 10:40

Which true facts did he post? The girl wasn't white but mixed race, she was to be brought up by her nan who was Muslim if anything, she was not forbidden to wear a cross as she didnt have one. So what did he get right?

As for the.picture being old; starving kids look alike. I never claimed desperate people numbers were increasing. You're the champion of the dirt poor, I'm more interested in the growth of inequality in my country and the tax decisions to increase it.

Your complete inability to read a post and comprehend it leads to you squealing falsehoods and insults. If you were as rich as you are bright you'd be using a food bank

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31/07/2018 at 17:56

I see you are still reading the Sun and Mirror Version of that story.

I don’t care about equality of outcomes as to enforce that has led to untold suffering, deaths and abuses whenever it has been tried. I do care about equality of opportunity and treating people fairly for their talents and hard work to thrive.

Obsessing about inequality of outcomes in the UK is diversionary and takes too many people away from some solving REAL problems.

Meanwhile absolute poverty has declined, the middle class has expanded and the wealthy have also increased in number and more ‘earned’ vs inherited wealth than ever before...

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31/07/2018 at 18:00

Racist and xenophobic abuse towards foreigners in the UK has increased since the Brexit vote, due to the nature of the Leave campaign and the following result giving many a license to be rude, show a lack of civility, revert to abuse and be racist.

A fact.


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31/07/2018 at 18:33

I do love your easy dismissal of people. I have read many versions of the story and a clarification by the man himself. He uses "in the public interest" a lot. Large parts of the story were garbage. There is no reason why the social worker should know the correct details. It wasn't her case.

Anyway, I'm sure you read his initial report and edited it before it was published. 

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31/07/2018 at 18:43

In no country in the work has equality of outcome ever been tried. If you thnk.that that is what happened in the SU you are very ill read on the subject.

Equality of opportunity is a noble idea and you and Sir Alan have proved miracles can happen. For the common mass, however, this is largely bollocks. To stop there being a vast sump at the bottom, positive and negative taxation must be used and meant. Cutting benefits, paying shit wages and giving tax breaks to.the well off is what the current government is doing. 3/4 of those using food banks are in work. No effort is being made to bring about a fairer society

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31/07/2018 at 18:44

No I read the report the article, the clarification and have seen the interviews the ‘racist’ ‘liar’ has given.

Large parts of the re-published story printed in the Sun were garbage but then I wouldn’t expect any different from them.

Meanwhile this pedantry is a great way of avoiding the actual issue... 

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04/08/2018 at 14:08

Quote Quote by candw on 26/07/2018 at 21:24
Aha! One of them was about a Serb(?) girl, mistress of a General. And Switzerland was involved? Does that ring a bell?

No, books don't ring bells.


Sounds like you've read one of the last books of the series - of which the quality weakens as the series progresses and the author expects the reader to understand the character/background. Not sure they work as standalone books.


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05/08/2018 at 09:05

OK. I certainly just picked on one, but I've no idea how or why. I was not enthralled enough to start the series.

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07/08/2018 at 02:32

Anyway, if white people wore burkas, they'd look like pillar boxes. But Muslims who wear them clearly don't. 

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07/08/2018 at 08:24

Do you really think Johnson gives a fig what a small section of women in a religious sect wear? Do you really think he comes into much/any contact with them and has any genuine opinion on their personal clothing choices?

Once again, he's playing up to a 'crowd', in this case the usual suspects, and saying the 'right' things to garner popularity, to keep himself in the public eye and to further his ambitions of political office. He is a complete snake and the media indulges his ridiculous act. The man has been in the public eye for 20 years, supported the UK being a member of the EU for 18 of them and in the 8 or so years he was mayor of London, did not make one negative comment regarding burqas. Now, attempting to surf a wave of populist opinion, he decides that the burqa is something to be mocked/banned. How is anyone still fooled by him.



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07/08/2018 at 09:33

Just another slimy politico and as inept as the rest...

Still...

If I go into a petrol station in my helmet I have to remove it.


I have read the rationale for niqab and burka and the associated logic of the ‘scholars’ that support it and can be perfectly blunt.

It has no purpose nor compatibility in a secular society except in the privacy of a persons home or place of worship which actually defeats the object.

The leaflet I got from Didsbury Mosque suggests that they prevent rapes so perhaps if all the females from 6 and up in Rochdale/Telford/ et al had worn them we wouldn’t have had those crimes... 

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