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01/07/2018 at 19:57


Lastest UN data shows that in the last century the number of deaths due to natural disasters has decreased to less than half. The UN’s ReliefWeb now coordinates help for disasters. It was paid for by tax payers in the most wealthy quartile of global citizens. Unfortunately hardly any of them know about it and most when polled think the number of deaths from natural disasters has more than doubled.

What can account for such staggering ignorance?  

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01/07/2018 at 20:52

Is the answer the Allams? 

Now then... 

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01/07/2018 at 22:02

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 01/07/2018 at 19:57

Lastest UN data shows that in the last century the number of deaths due to natural disasters has decreased to less than half. The UN’s ReliefWeb now coordinates help for disasters. It was paid for by tax payers in the most wealthy quartile of global citizens. Unfortunately hardly any of them know about it and most when polled think the number of deaths from natural disasters has more than doubled.

What can account for such staggering ignorance?


I blame the teachers. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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01/07/2018 at 22:09

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 01/07/2018 at 19:57


What can account for such staggering ignorance?


Could it be that most people are heating beans over a fire built from the last leg of their last dining chair and couldn't really give much of a fuck?

If this is the winning entry please send the prize money to Disaster Relief. Cheers.

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03/07/2018 at 09:07

You seem frozen in a world that you think looks like it did when you graduated...

The world has eliminated extreme poverty two years ahead of target and we are now rapidly moving towards a world where the kind of things you just wrote are a distant memory.

Get with the program and write something topical for once.  

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03/07/2018 at 10:59

Some 650 000 000 people still live in extreme poverty. It is reducing, but is not eliminated. And my last post was just a joke, as I'm sure you realised. 

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03/07/2018 at 17:55

Don’t worry it is reducing every day: in the 7 years from 2008 to 2015 the headline could have been “Number of people in extreme poverty fell by 217,000 since yesterday”. In the recent past we saw the fastest reduction of the number of people in extreme poverty ever. It will be all over soon.

We know what reduces poverty now - let’s just vote for more of what works and reject what doesn’t work. 

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03/07/2018 at 19:07

Keep em in the dark eh?

“A more recent survey commissioned by Oxfam Found that in Germany and the US only 8% of the survey respondents know that extreme poverty has declined,

“National prosperity is a strong predictor of declining extreme poverty at the individual level. there is no country with a GDP per capita higher than 15,000 int.-$ in which more than 5% of the population lives in extreme poverty. “ 

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04/07/2018 at 11:36

So you are totally happy with trickle down?

Floating all the boats, even if some need to keep baling all the while?

What plans are in place for Iraq's water situation where the mighty Tigris and Euphrates are in a state of trickle down?

Does trickle down satisfy the aspirations of the relative poor in, for example, this country? And they are poor, despite not being Indian slum dwellers. 

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04/07/2018 at 15:37

No one here is poor compared to a century ago.

Extreme poverty in the UK is a clear oxymoron when thinking globally.

Relative poverty is a totally ridiculous concept once basic needs are completely satisfied.

Note the vast majority of Humanity throughout the world now has access to clean water, education, basic healthcare, education for women, birth control, electrical power etc. The only places that don’t are ones impacted by tribal warfare or religious mumbo jumbo.

We used to think that wealth comes first and you need wealth to drag you out of poverty. The last 50 years have disapproved that emphatically and proven that we had cause and effect the wrong way round for years. It’s why I have such disdain for sticking plaster charity. Don’t give money, give condoms, don’t build a school dig a pipe and get clean water to people. Trickle down doesn’t exist if anything it’s trickle up but we need a new language to describe what is actually happening not the old winners / losers - power vs. oppressed paradigm that is clearly NOT how the global economy really works.  

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04/07/2018 at 16:59

Bad governance hasn't helped either. 15 million under-18s in South Africa with minimal education... the second least educated population (as of a total percentage) in Africa. From a country that was practically First World in 1990.



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04/07/2018 at 18:00

agree - people perhaps need to not vote in regimes that willl take them backwards.

Let’s watcb Mexico impoverish itself even more over the next decade... 

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04/07/2018 at 18:10

Budweiser Lite has a larger market share than the entire craft beer industry in the USA.

South Africa is in a mess - the lack of education and dominance of the ANC means that the economic problems caused by mismanagement and theft will be blamed on whites and black foreigners for another generation yet. I had a part share as a silent partner in a restaurant in Cape Town up until 2012 when we sold the building, there's no chance I'd enter that game again now.


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04/07/2018 at 18:53

Agree - I didn’t play sun city -

but a mate worked and lived there for a few years “llife of Riley and all that”. I watched the film about the rugby World Cup but thought it a fairy tale and this it has proven to be.

I studied Papa Doc and the worlds first black democratic republic (Haiti) and its heart breaking how a man who was a public health community doctor could ruin a country and take a descent into personal madness.

On beer the craft beer and microbrew movement is massive in the USA and well ahead of us. Budweiser maybe the biggest now but it’s not size it’s growth that matters... 

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04/07/2018 at 21:53

No one here is poor compared to a century ago.

Is that called progress? Nothing to do with organised labour fighting for their share of the large amounts of money floating around?

Extreme poverty in the UK is a clear oxymoron when thinking globally.

Many very poor people in the UK do not think that way. Only wealthy virtue signallers have the leisure to give much of a fuck.

Relative poverty is a totally ridiculous concept once basic needs are completely satisfied.

Like food safety, a house without damp and rats and at a price that doesn't ask for choices between heating and eating? When we et there the ridiculous concept will be ridiculous.

Exiled, you seem to be a reasonably decent bloke - at times - but you let your inner Bill Gates run away with you at times.

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04/07/2018 at 22:20

Don’t give money, give condoms, don’t build a school dig a pipe and get clean water to people.

Knickers for the natives? And they've waited long enough. Build the school and the water pipe.

Trickle down doesn’t exist if anything it’s trickle up

Yes, that's always been true. From Reagan/Thatcher it has been the guiding principle, to the detriment of the poorer off. An obvious lie, but it was well sold to those that it helped.

but we need a new language to describe what is actually happening not the old winners / losers - power vs. oppressed paradigm that is clearly NOT how the global economy really works.

There are quite a few people who would not agree with you.

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04/07/2018 at 22:40

You say from Reagan to thatcher but the global statistics are absolutely irrefutable we have made enormous strides to eliminating poverty all over the world.

Tell me what detriment to the poor you are actually referring to?


Who is worse off and has gone backwards?  

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04/07/2018 at 23:11

Quote Quote by candw on 04/07/2018 at 22:20
Don’t give money, give condoms, don’t build a school dig a pipe and get clean water to people.

Knickers for the natives? And they've waited long enough. Build the school and the water pipe.

>>>>>Reality is they already have all of those things data point: Average years spent in school for 30 year olds today =‘ 10
Percentage of global population that has access to electricity = 83%
Percentage of 1 year old children vaccinated = 81%
Majority of the worlds population now lives in the upper quartile of income = total reversal over the last century
Average life expectancy of the world today = 70 years old (doubled in the last century)

Trickle down doesn’t exist if anything it’s trickle up

Yes, that's always been true. From Reagan/Thatcher it has been the guiding principle, to the detriment of the poorer off. An obvious lie, but it was well sold to those that it helped.

but we need a new language to describe what is actually happening not the old winners / losers - power vs. oppressed paradigm that is clearly NOT how the global economy really works.

There are quite a few people who would not agree with you.


And they are suffering from ignorance, out of data attitudes informed by bad data and / or news related bias.

E.g. how has the number of deaths from natural disasters changed over the last 100 years?
A: more than doubled
B: stayed the same
C: decreased to less than half

Take a guess...

In the question of how has extreme poverty changed over the last 20 years...
Only 5% of Americans know that it has more than halved. In the UK only 15% know what proportion of the worlds children are vaccinated. In a huge UN survey regarding 12 key questions about the status and wellbeing of the human race in 2017 on average people get only two out of 12 questions right. Staggering ignorance is widespread and educational attainment actually predicts a WORSE score. How can this be?

Our world presents information in ways that knowing the truth and actual perspective is rare...

Misconception #1 the world is divided in two the haves and have nots
False in 2017
True in 1965

Misconception #2 the world has a high income developed world and low income undeveloped world

False in 2017
True in 1965

World now has roughly four groups of income and only one billion 20% live in group one with the lowest income - this is also the fastest reducing group.

Take Brazil one of the world most unequal societies...

In 1989 the richest 10% had 50% of the total share of income today they have 40% and hasn’t been this low for decades. Most Brazilians have left extreme poverty well behind as a distant memory.

Globally the ignaorance is everywhere in Belgium 90% of people think the world is getting worse 75% in the UK are ignorant too.

It seems people are stuck with the way they thought the world was in their childhood and have compounded every bad news story, every charity appeal video, every disaster headline and more into their pessimism. Meanwhile the facts and reality have been steadily going only one way...

Cheer up you miserable fuckers.  

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05/07/2018 at 13:07

Percentage of global population that has access to electricity = 83%

So that leaves over 1 000 000 000 without.

Majority of the worlds population now lives in the upper quartile of income = total reversal over the last century

The richest 1% of the American population in 2007 owned 34.6% of the country's total wealth

The next 19% owned 50.5%.

The bottom 80% of the population owned 15%.


Data is open to interpretation in different ways.

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10/07/2018 at 10:10

Quote Quote by candw on 05/07/2018 at 13:07


Majority of the worlds population now lives in the upper quartile of income = total reversal over the last century

The richest 1% of the American population in 2007 owned 34.6% of the country's total wealth

The next 19% owned 50.5%.

The bottom 80% of the population owned 15%.


Data is open to interpretation in different ways.



...Especially if you keep looking at more than a decade old data.

first you post pictures of a famine ravaged child from LAST century and now you rely on eleven year old data to prove an invalid point. No wonder your world~view is as warped as it is...

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10/07/2018 at 12:57

If you really think the rich have been forced to tighten their belts...

Could you find and post please, an up to date picture of a starving child? Cheers.

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