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theotherphantom

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04/05/2018 at 03:30

Currently down 77 seats in the local elections, with the Tories picking up 39 of them, LibDems 22, Labour 7, Greens 5, and others 4. Shows up the London bubble's lie that it was yer racist common man that made Brexit happen, and backs up Lord Whatsisface's analysis that the majority of Brexisters were basically Tories.




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04/05/2018 at 04:34

That shape of shifts has changed somewhat. Now it's looking more like a hint of a tad of a bit of a forgiving of the LDs. 

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04/05/2018 at 08:12

Only fools think all 17M leavers were common racists.

Its a shame UKIP are finished and couldn't replace Farage with new leadership, wholly trusting the Tories is difficult.

Corbyn has plateaued now. LD's pushing Labour locally, time for a new post-City of Culture Council leader to emerge, has Gerraghty gone?
Brady next, the council need a new Emma Hardy type leader.

 

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04/05/2018 at 08:17

When Tories are expelling Black Britons, who needs UKIP?

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Hulltim8 City AFC

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04/05/2018 at 09:48

Whrn Labour is full of anti Semitic racists who needs the NF or BNP? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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04/05/2018 at 10:27

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 04/05/2018 at 03:30
Currently down 77 seats in the local elections, with the Tories picking up 39 of them, LibDems 22, Labour 7, Greens 5, and others 4. Shows up the London bubble's lie that it was yer racist common man that made Brexit happen, and backs up Lord Whatsisface's analysis that the majority of Brexisters were basically Tories.






May has decided on a Brexit that could be harder than the majority of UKIPers could have hoped... The voter figures can be interpreted many ways.. What is a fact is that voting habits are more volatile than in recent history.

Percentage move wise, the lib Dems are the biggest gainers, disputing your conclusion.


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04/05/2018 at 11:27

There has been quite a movement on Twitter of Labour supporters choosing to vote Lib or Green because Corbyn won't stop Brexit! 

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04/05/2018 at 12:46

Yes. Richmond being the major example in London - lib dems beat the conservatives and Greens are now the official opposition... Purely due to May's Brexit extremes..

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04/05/2018 at 14:10

Quote Quote by essexgull on 04/05/2018 at 12:46
Yes. Richmond being the major example in London - lib dems beat the conservatives and Greens are now the official opposition... Purely due to May's Brexit extremes..

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Yes. How dare she do what people voted for! I f Jezza ever got in his Momentum thugs would bring in a Workers' Paradise system whers there is no oppostition parties to confuse th voters. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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04/05/2018 at 15:46

...whers...th...

The errors are still less ludicrous than opinions expressed.

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essexgull

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04/05/2018 at 17:12

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 04/05/2018 at 14:10


Yes. How dare she do what people voted for! I f Jezza ever got in his Momentum thugs would bring in a Workers' Paradise system whers there is no oppostition parties to confuse th voters.


Did everyone who voted to leave vote for what May is now offering as the Brexit solution?

9 Lib Dems got in in Hull, I see, despite the city being 68% Leave voting. Similar figures in Sheffield and Sunderland. Indicates that perhaps some are realising they were lied to by Leave promises. As it stands, the UK will be overwhelmingly worse off after Brexit on all levels.

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04/05/2018 at 23:47

...they voted OUT of the European Union.

The voted for to leave the economic union which means the customs union of course.

The shameless politicking by politicos who just want more politics, more bureaucracy, more quangos, more regulation and more unemployment, cultural soup etc.

Just accept the will of the people.

Corbz has got the rim of his London Sink Hole - unless labour become less Eddie Izzard and more mainstream they will end up making a lot of noise for no gain. No good having massive membership if you can change opinions and votes.  

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05/05/2018 at 07:59

The will of the people.. and what if the will of the people has changed in the last 2 years having finally seen the downsides in reality?

The issue was and always has been the writing off/paying off of the British underclass and their replacement by unskilled non-European immigration - the issues affecting most of west Europe together with the mechanisms allowing the extreme wealthy and multinational corporations to use the country and it's tax laws to avoid paying tax.

Freedom of movement, standardisation etc. from EU membership were only benefits.


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05/05/2018 at 23:31

The will of the people has hardened according to all but the metropolitan niches.

The United States of Europe was an exercise in cosying up to big business and marching European people to a federal bureaucracy whilst talking pseudo democratic socialism. No regard to the people’s wish to have sovereign powers retained.

Just politicians creating more politicians  

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06/05/2018 at 10:07

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 05/05/2018 at 23:31
The will of the people has hardened according to all but the metropolitan niches.

What is your data for that conclusion?

The United States of Europe was an exercise in cosying up to big business and marching European people to a federal bureaucracy whilst talking pseudo democratic socialism. No regard to the people’s wish to have sovereign powers retained.

So you don't think it's good to cosy up to big business? In a capitalist cartel? What is "pseudo democratic socialism"? Hasn't the input of EU money been beneficial to poorly developed regions?

Just politicians creating more politicians
 

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07/05/2018 at 16:12

FFS...There is NO such thing as EU money

- It has just been the EU taking money from successful nations and dishing it out to shit holes in exchange for them lying about their reforms and moving towards modern economics.

Like taking money from you and your neigbours, giving it to the poor estate and then promising to become middle class whilst spending all the dosh at the offy.

Meanwhile they leave their houses and move in with you and take your kids Jobs.

Great plan.  

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candw

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07/05/2018 at 17:06

You're describing a fair tax system, you fucking oaf. What's wrong with that?

To you, fair taxation is leaving.poor people poor and you getting a tax break so some can trickle down.

HINT It trickles up in reality!Old Spice

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07/05/2018 at 18:23

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 07/05/2018 at 16:12
FFS...There is NO such thing as EU money

- It has just been the EU taking money from successful nations and dishing it out to shit holes in exchange for them lying about their reforms and moving towards modern economics.

Like taking money from you and your neigbours, giving it to the poor estate and then promising to become middle class whilst spending all the dosh at the offy.

Meanwhile they leave their houses and move in with you and take your kids Jobs.

Great plan.


UK figures indicate that EU immigrants are net contributors of tax into the UK treasury and less likely to be unemployed than UK citizens. Figures also show that their net result on the UK economy has been to grow it and create more jobs, rather than take jobs.

'Taking jobs' is an interesting turn of phrase anyway. I've yet to meet or hear about EU immigrants who have demanded lower wages to take a job... there is a real reason why lower end salaries and wages have been depressed, whilst company owner and shareholders dividends have risen. No-one forced customers to pay plumbers less. Will your children be working in nursing homes and on farms in the future?




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07/05/2018 at 21:49

Your first paragraph is utter horse shit on the ground level.

The tax take figure is absolute crap and much is based on old studies of studies

https://fullfact.org/immigration/how-immi grants-affect-public-finances/

Depending on which gang / paper you follow you get the figures you ‘hope’ for.

Meanwhile in a BBC poll 95% of British citizens think multi-culturalism has been a failure...

So a net NO THANKS seems to be the real result.  

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07/05/2018 at 22:18

Meanwhile in a BBC poll 95% of British citizens think multi-culturalism has been a failure...

So a net NO THANKS seems to be the real result.


So tax figures are shit and your BBC figure is gospel? I put the statement into Google and it dredged up some amazingly mainstream outlets.

A poll last year conducted by Lord Ashcroft showed overwhelming support for multiculturalism, with 70 percent of the public supporting it, and 30 percent opposed. Only amongst Ukip voters were the majority opposed to multiculturalism, with 57 percent of Ukip aligned respondents saying that they opposed multiculturalism.

Those who voted for the other three main parties were overwhelmingly in favour, with 71 percent of Conservative voters, 76 percent of Labour voters, and 89 percent of Liberal Democrat voters all being in favour of multiculturalism.

Amongst ethnic minority respondents (Black Caribbean, Black African, and Asian Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs), nine out of ten thought that multiculturalism was a good thing.


"Straw Polls" have no statistical or numeric value. They should only be used with an explicit reference to the audience about its limitations. They should never feature in news bulletins or used to "gather serious information on party political support".

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08/05/2018 at 10:02

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 07/05/2018 at 21:49
YMeanwhile in a BBC poll 95% of British citizens think multi-culturalism has been a failure...



Fish and chip restaurants must be due for a comeback as the 95% give up buying kebabs, Indian, pizza and Chinese.

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08/05/2018 at 10:25

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 07/05/2018 at 21:49
Your first paragraph is utter horse shit on the ground level.

The tax take figure is absolute crap and much is based on old studies of studies

https://fullfact.org/immigration/how-immi grants-affect-public-finances/

Depending on which gang / paper you follow you get the figures you ‘hope’ for.

Meanwhile in a BBC poll 95% of British citizens think multi-culturalism has been a failure...

So a net NO THANKS seems to be the real result.


All complete fabrication.

The EU has been nothing but good for you personally.

A section of society have suffered due to increased pressures on housing and certain services, due to government cuts. But not only have EU employees made UK businesses rich, they've also conveniently taken all the blame for greedy management paying low wages.


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08/05/2018 at 19:13

If Phantom hadn't been indoctrinated online, as well as blaming George Soros and lizards for funding globalisation and the ending of the white race, unsuccessfully as there are more whites on the planet than ever before, he'd perhaps also question who is funding all these rightist groups popping up over Europe, funding their online activities, protests, material etc. Unless he thinks that Tommy Robinson is releasing his books and going on speech tours, paid for by donations from his fans...


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08/05/2018 at 23:44

Quote Quote by essexgull on 08/05/2018 at 19:13
If Phantom hadn't been indoctrinated online, as well as blaming George Soros and lizards for funding globalisation and the ending of the white race, unsuccessfully as there are more whites on the planet than ever before, he'd perhaps also question who is funding all these rightist groups popping up over Europe, funding their online activities, protests, material etc. Unless he thinks that Tommy Robinson is releasing his books and going on speech tours, paid for by donations from his fans...


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I haven't been "indoctrinated", I'm asking questions and I want to know what's going on. Soros and the people above him are funding the right as well. I didn't mention ending the white "race". 

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09/05/2018 at 06:17

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 04/05/2018 at 08:12
Only fools think all 17M leavers were common racists.

Its a shame UKIP are finished and couldn't replace Farage with new leadership, wholly trusting the Tories is difficult.

Corbyn has plateaued now. LD's pushing Labour locally, time for a new post-City of Culture Council leader to emerge, has Gerraghty gone?
Brady next, the council need a new Emma Hardy type leader.



Got to agree Ted, Emma Hardy already shaping up to be the best (most effective) Labour MP in our city in a generation. Put's her recent higher profile predecessor's performances into stark profile.

Quite remarkable an MP who appears to be re[resenting her constituents rather than politicking. 

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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09/05/2018 at 08:52

I see a gulf in calibre between Labour councillors off the estates and the Labour MP's Imp. Brady, Gerraghty and that Bayes paedo for example. Not that I rate Prescott, Diana Johnson or Turner, far from it, but I give Alan Johnson some credit, I've even read his first book, humble beginnings, QPR though. Emma Hardy seems much higher calibre and thats the type HCC need as leader in a city of strong women.  

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11/05/2018 at 21:33

Alan Johnson was an excellent MP for Hull (West) despite being parachuted into a Labour safe seat, whatever your political persuasion.

Sorely missed when he vacated, just hope Emma Hardy can fill some big boots. 

Now then... 

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12/05/2018 at 19:15

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 08/05/2018 at 23:44


I haven't been "indoctrinated", I'm asking questions and I want to know what's going on. Soros and the people above him are funding the right as well. I didn't mention ending the white "race".


I think you have, especially regarding Soros. A few months ago, you wrote he was a Nazi collaborator in the war, implying this was how he began to make money. His birth year is reported as 1930, which would have made him 9 years old when WW2 began. Hardly the age that anyone can be accused of collaboration.

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