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TedLloyd

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13/04/2018 at 19:20

Our liberal media seem to be taking the opportunity to demonize the great man.  

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candw

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13/04/2018 at 20:45

I haven't read his speech for a while, but I had forgotten how mean and nasty it was.

One thing we really need at the moment is for old prejudices to be raked up against Blacks and Sikhs, to add to the shit handed out daily to Muslims and, recently, Poles and other East Europeans. Still, teddie, you may well get your way and live to see an all white Britain again. If Brexit affects our economy as badly as some fear, who the fuck will want to stay here? You, teddie, and a few more nutty white supremacists? Back to the 50s or before, but solidly conservative, so not even an NHS or a council house or two. Mind you, if there are that many leaving, we'll all be able to have two houses each.

Still, we may be a radio active wasteland by then.

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Hulltim8 City AFC

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Quote Quote by candw on 13/04/2018 at 20:45
I haven't read his speech for a while, but I had forgotten how mean and nasty it was.

One thing we really need at the moment is for old prejudices to be raked up against Blacks and Sikhs, to add to the shit handed out daily to Muslims and, recently, Poles and other East Europeans. Still, teddie, you may well get your way and live to see an all white Britain again. If Brexit affects our economy as badly as some fear, who the fuck will want to stay here? You, teddie, and a few more nutty white supremacists? Back to the 50s or before, but solidly conservative, so not even an NHS or a council house or two. Mind you, if there are that many leaving, we'll all be able to have two houses each.

Still, we may be a radio active wasteland by then.


Powell wasn't a racist. That was Tony Benn who said that, BTW.

The fifties contained the 2 years when the most council houses were built. Under a Conservative government, 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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TedLloyd

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13/04/2018 at 22:26

I'm not a nutty white supremacist and neither was Enoch. I prefer to place his speech in the context of 1968, which doesn't make him the demon contemporary liberals will try to paint him now.

Is this daily shit you refer to today really all one way? White prejudice is the only prejudice? How many murders were committed in London in the first 3 months of 1968? 

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candw

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14/04/2018 at 12:38

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 13/04/2018 at 22:26
I'm not a nutty white supremacist and neither was Enoch. I prefer to place his speech in the context of 1968, which doesn't make him the demon contemporary liberals will try to paint him now.

Is this daily shit you refer to today really all one way? White prejudice is the only prejudice? How many murders were committed in London in the first 3 months of 1968?


So how old were you in 1968? I thought it was mean and nasty racism then, and still do.

Has "the Black man got the whip hand over the White man"?

A rise from a record low.

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TedLloyd

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14/04/2018 at 12:59

1968 is now history and most of history was mean and nasty.  

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candw

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14/04/2018 at 19:48

I went to school and college in the 1940s and 1950s and found it no worse than today. I had a fucking great time in the 1960s. Enoch-Powell was a nasty, grubby man in any age. And don't bother to bring up his educational record. Ancient fucking Greek. No wonder we were shit at manufacturing!

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TedLloyd

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http://www.salisburyreview.com/articles/w hose-afraid-of-enoch-powell/

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candw

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15/04/2018 at 11:47

So yesterday. Designed to counter the modern Right's fixation on Muslims?  

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Hulltim8 City AFC

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Quote Quote by candw on 14/04/2018 at 19:48
I went to school and college in the 1940s and 1950s and found it no worse than today. I had a fucking great time in the 1960s. Enoch-Powell was a nasty, grubby man in any age. And don't bother to bring up his educational record. Ancient fucking Greek. No wonder we were shit at manufacturing!


Says the man whose only connection to manufacturing was a couple of weeks as a delivery man before he scuttled back to the comfort, long holidays and subsidised pension of his public sector job. We were better at manufacturing then than we are now with our army of Media Studies graduates. I blame the teachers.

Powell apart from ancient languages could converse with Pakistanis as he was fluent in Urdu. Unlike old codgers in Northampton who, in their insular, racist way think everyone should converse in English.

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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Quote Quote by candw on 15/04/2018 at 11:47
So yesterday. Designed to counter the modern Right's fixation on Muslims?


Or the left's fixation on anti Semitism? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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candw

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15/04/2018 at 15:42

I worked in a Leather Dressers when I was 15, on the buildings, on East Midlands Town Mains gang as well as as a courier. I also started teaching the day after my 18th birthday, but that doesn't count. (Nor does Import-Export!)

I liked the job. Out on the open road with audio tapes to listen to and nothing but traffic jams to annoy. me. When I realised that being self employed, according to the firm, was just a description they used to escape all the extras like holiday pay, sick pay, insurance etc I went back to Supply Teaching and worked short hours for two days a week and came out with more money. I fucking hated it.

Of course, we've never had so many employed; on Zero Hours (which suits exiled's sons) and more and more self-employed, who are often older blokes who cannot get a regular job and try to exist on odd jobs. They are amongst the poorest of the working poor.

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16/04/2018 at 09:47

I was sure that many of the Leave voting bloc stated that they were not racist, but wanted to have stronger ties to commonwealth countries. Strangely silent over deportations of Windrush migrants, who were born on British soil so had no need to register as British citizens back in the 1960s.


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17/04/2018 at 00:48

Quote Quote by essexgull on 16/04/2018 at 09:47
I was sure that many of the Leave voting bloc stated that they were not racist, but wanted to have stronger ties to commonwealth countries. Strangely silent over deportations of Windrush migrants, who were born on British soil so had no need to register as British citizens back in the 1960s.


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If it's any help, this person - who almost voted leave and has never had much more than contempt for the EU but nevertheless eventually voted Remain - did last week sign an online petition in support the Windrush migrants (though uncertain how they were migrants if they were born here, but there we go). 

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essexgull

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17/04/2018 at 06:03

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 17/04/2018 at 00:48


If it's any help, this person - who almost voted leave and has never had much more than contempt for the EU but nevertheless eventually voted Remain - did last week sign an online petition in support the Windrush migrants (though uncertain how they were migrants if they were born here, but there we go).


Good for you, Phantasy old bean. I did the same. A very strange state of affairs. Net migration of around 400k annually and the home office focus on those who have lived here half a century. Shameful state of affairs really. Two decades of a lack of clear policy and then a ridiculous reaction. I'm hoping that May's direction of the bombing in Syria and this will see her gone.


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