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essexgull

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21/03/2018 at 18:16

Rather surprised that so many didn't realise that FaceBook was a data mining database essentially... How naive do you have to be to think that one of the biggest companies in the world offers a full online profile and network for the minor cost of a user reading a few adverts. I wonder if anyone has started questioning how WhatsApp and Instagram are free for the end user yet.

Too many ostriches.

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22/03/2018 at 12:41

I don't use Facebook, but were I to do so I would expect for there to be adverts - which I ignore and which advertisers pay handsomely for. I thought that's how it works. I use Spotify without paying and ignore the ads. I have a Football Score app that groans when NTFC's opponents score - frequently - but I have not bought it, I suffer the ads. To castigate me for not realising the cunts want even more from me than a few ads shows why I could never be a capitalist.

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22/03/2018 at 17:25

Goes deeper than that, I'm afraid.

If you have a smartphone with apps and have given them permission to your microphone, the apps are listening in for keywords, even when the phone is locked. If they're free, the advertising income is a small part of the revenue. Google, FaceBook etc. sponsor these apps and fit in data mining software, so the apps listen in, detect keystrokes etc. and then pass on data to be mined, adverts to be targetted, simply info to be sold upon which a profile is made of the user, whether they use social media or not. Unavoidable really.

This site has been left alone for a while now, since around when Reg departed, so bizarrely is relatively safe. The not606 site is absolutely riddled with trackers, keystroke detectors etc.

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22/03/2018 at 17:31

It's easy to test. Get a new unregistered phone, set up WhatsApp on it, allow permissions as you have to to access all functionability, lock phone with app running in background, discuss something random eg. parquet flooring for a few minutes, next day log in and use internet to access a high burden advertising site ie. MailOnline, you'll get adverts popping up for parquet flooring... You can even send messages to friends and family and related adverts to words you type will pop up, plus all the potential political/relationship/opinion data is mined, stored and analysed by data science and sold.

This is how a free global messaging service was valued and bought for $19 billion... This has been discussed for around a decade now. It's only when connected to Brexit/Trump/Russia (!) that anyone has started to care.

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22/03/2018 at 19:16

So 1984 got the timing wrong and it was Global Capitalism, not Socialism that is Big Brother?

What a bastard!

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