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essexgull

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20/03/2018 at 10:21

British cheese (and other products) will have a greater freedom of movement and more rights within the EU than British people...

Fantastic negotiations. Well done Brexit.


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imperishablehcfc

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20/03/2018 at 10:58

Continue not washing behind your foreskin old bean and you'll sail through customs. 

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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candw

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20/03/2018 at 15:31

Did you mean "pillock" victory? Asking for a friend.

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essexgull

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20/03/2018 at 16:37

It's bizarre. A worse agreement negotiated than the one before...


Proof that the General Public should never be listened to.


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20/03/2018 at 16:53

Quote Quote by essexgull on 20/03/2018 at 16:37
It's bizarre. A worse agreement negotiated than the one before...


Proof that the General Public should never be listened to.


ESSEX GULL


Which nicely summarises something I was coming on here to post.

People have concerns about all sorts of things happening in this country. I've posted hereabouts about concerns I have. And they get dismissed. They get dismissed by people who take a deeper interest in politics, etc, than the vast majority of people do. Anyone that mentions immigration is automatically tarnished with the R-word, for discussion of immigration is verboten. Any concerns about immigrants that don't assimilate, don't learn the language, need translators, need to use medical facilities which haven't been given money and staff to cope, etc, all that is dismissed with the R-word.

When it comes to my areas of expertise, I expect most people to know way less about them than I do, so I have to explain and hope I can do it in ways that help and give whoever it is some knowledge they can use. When it comes to political stuff, nobody explains it to people. It just gets dismissed or ignored. People are told they are ignorant or racist or both. Nobody explains to them.

And that's why you get Brexit. And the people that know about this kind of thing are suddenly surprised that the people whose concerns they've dismissed, the people they've written off as ignorant and/or racist and to stupid or worthless to bother with, have had enough of it.

The same is happening in the USA. The media, the grid-iron players, Hollywood, etc, etc, etc, have taken to insulting half the nation. With hilarious consequences.

Chickens coming home to roost. 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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essexgull

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20/03/2018 at 17:06

A piece of Stilton currently has a clearer defined set of rights in the future within Europe, than you do, TOP old bean. As does a Nissan Leaf, which will have a greater freedom to travel within Europe and receive a greater UK taxpayer subsidy than you.

EU nationals will maintain their rights within the EU, obviously, and their right to remain in the UK up to, at least 2021. The fishing industry will be sacrificed, because of it's relative small size and the United Kingdom will effectively split into four loosely joined entities.

There was an option for Brexit to be more successful - an EEA agreement with mature and considered compromises. Unfortunately, the swivel-eyed loons and the childish 'out at whatever cost' maniacs have destroyed any hope of this, to the extent that May and the Conservatives will accept any deal offered.

What a disaster.


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I'm an alligator...

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21/03/2018 at 13:39

Yvette Cooper was on r4 Today program warning of the (possible) collapse of current ties with Europol, the European Arrest Warrant and data sharing.

She cited the case of an 'EU rapist' (my quotation marks) who was brought back to trial, and that those agreements to catch foreign criminals that offend here may be in doubt post brexit.

Laugh? I nearly paid for me own beer...

 

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The Prince of Munster

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21/03/2018 at 14:42

Does she really think other European countries will want our rapists and murderers seeking refuge within their borders?

I somewhat doubt it? 

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TedLloyd

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21/03/2018 at 14:42

I've resisted liking Jacob Rees-Mogg for quite a while but he's winning me over.  

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theotherphantom

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21/03/2018 at 15:49

Quote Quote by The Prince of Munster on 21/03/2018 at 14:42
Does she really think other European countries will want our rapists and murderers seeking refuge within their borders?

I somewhat doubt it?


Well, it's not like most haven't recently imported plenty of their own, even if they are in denial about it. 

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essexgull

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21/03/2018 at 16:38

After Brexit, EU nationals will have exactly the same rights to travel to the UK as they have now.

May's government have confirmed that the UK will not be having a VISA waiver agreement like the US does.


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