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14/06/2018 at 04:06

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 13/06/2018 at 20:37
After watching that do you think Google should have a safe space for its employees to say what they want?


No, but Google reacted disgracefully and wrongly regarding James Damore. They asked him for his thoughts, so he wrote a paper, citing evidence for everything in it. Then other people deliberately misrepresented it and he was sacked because people didn't like their own misrepresentation. A few months after his firing, the CEO and the head of diversity (nobody should have such a job or job title) were on a TV programme and said that what they stood for and what they were aiming for was exactly what Damore had said.

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 13/06/2018 at 20:37
The woman philosophy lecturer was funny. If she'd taught both sides of the argument for that long she should have been well aware of Marxist philosophy and reading the feminist texts shouldn't have been a shock to her.


I suppose it depends on the time scales. I don't know when feminism became mired in Marxism, and I don't know when she applied for the course notes. 

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14/06/2018 at 04:37

Here, this'll wind some of you up. It's likely that the full force of SJWdom hasn't really got started over here, but it will, and it'll spill out of the learning centres and start (or carry on) affecting our laws, just like it's one stateside. For what it's worth, I agree with every last thing he says. Enjoy.


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14/06/2018 at 04:45

Whoops! It's always no-edit day.



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15/06/2018 at 09:08

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 14/06/2018 at 03:44


Pardon me for not replying earlier.



Thanks for the long reply. Despite getting the audience to repeat after him that correlation does not imply causation" he then makes a huge assumption about the behavioural problems of boys of colour in schools. I presumed he meant non-white, ie Black and Asian boys (including Americans of Chinese and Japanese origin) my mistake, sorry.

The data you have provided is not detailed enough to make any assumptions.

Does the income of the household affect the behavioural outcome of boys from broken homes? Why are girls from broken homes less likely to have behavioural problems than boys? What long term affects did slavery have on African/American families and the institution of marriage?

As the man say correlation does not imply causation. A charlatan is someone who says one thing when it suits him and ignores it when it doesn't. In 13 minutes he did just that.

His criticism of Title IX didn't discuss any of the factors I mentioned. He mentions Minneapolis but provides no data for the numbers excluded and for what. He makes no reference to whether a black child was more likely to be excluded for the same conduct. Difficult to do but if he really believes in looking at the facts then that's exactly what he should do. He made cheap political points, which was his sole intention.  

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15/06/2018 at 09:24

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I suppose it depends on the time scales. I don't know when feminism became mired in Marxism, and I don't know when she applied for the course notes.[/quote]

He was sacked because his views affected Google's profits, or more importantly, they thought his views would affect their profits. Welcome to the capitalist world. It happened in Hollywood during McCarthy, its happened to hundreds and thousands of trade unionists over the years. I didn't hear any compliant from the right when it happens to the left.

Feminism didn't become mired in Marxism.

A philosophy lecturer should have been aware of the large body of work that constitutes Marxist philosophy before she applied for the course notes. if she didn't then she's not very good at her job, especially as she made a point of insisting she taught her students to study every viewpoint to get a balanced education. 

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15/06/2018 at 10:23

Ah yes, Soros, the Nazi Collaborator as you have earlier claimed, despite him being 9 years old when the second World War began.


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Quote Quote by essexgull on 15/06/2018 at 10:23
Ah yes, Soros, the Nazi Collaborator as you have earlier claimed, despite him being 9 years old when the second World War began.


ESSEX GULL


Kids of that age got medals for denouncing their parents in The Workers' Paradise. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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16/06/2018 at 14:51

The group identify politics and equal outcomes cancer is spreading and now we have people yelling Nazi at everyone else.

Simpleton polarised politics is all over the place and is it any wonder when you have the leaders of the world communicating in 150 characters or less.

Our current democratic, balanced economy societies have given us more benefits and more people dragged out of poverty globally than ever before.

Equality of Opportunities - as much as we can every man wan and child - we want the competent to rise to the top
Equality of Outcomes? - no way this aim has led to some of the worst Murderous excesses of the last century
Freedom of Religion - yes - but no room for theocratic fascism or religions that you are not Free to leave or criticise
Secular democratic state with separation between religion and state
Rule of law and property rights
Sanctity of the individual before the group  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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16/06/2018 at 18:33

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 15/06/2018 at 09:08


Thanks for the long reply. Despite getting the audience to repeat after him that correlation does not imply causation" he then makes a huge assumption about the behavioural problems of boys of colour in schools. I presumed he meant non-white, ie Black and Asian boys (including Americans of Chinese and Japanese origin) my mistake, sorry.

The data you have provided is not detailed enough to make any assumptions.

Does the income of the household affect the behavioural outcome of boys from broken homes? Why are girls from broken homes less likely to have behavioural problems than boys? What long term affects did slavery have on African/American families and the institution of marriage?

As the man say correlation does not imply causation. A charlatan is someone who says one thing when it suits him and ignores it when it doesn't. In 13 minutes he did just that.

His criticism of Title IX didn't discuss any of the factors I mentioned. He mentions Minneapolis but provides no data for the numbers excluded and for what. He makes no reference to whether a black child was more likely to be excluded for the same conduct. Difficult to do but if he really believes in looking at the facts then that's exactly what he should do. He made cheap political points, which was his sole intention.


Why would slavery a few generationsago have any effect on modern day families and the institution of marriage? What a load of crock.
What effect do the more recent twin evils of Nazism and Communism have on German and Russian families and the institute of marriage? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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16/06/2018 at 20:57

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 16/06/2018 at 18:33


Why would slavery a few generationsago have any effect on modern day families and the institution of marriage? What a load of crock.
What effect do the more recent twin evils of Nazism and Communism have on German and Russian families and the institute of marriage?


You're an intelligent man who likes blues and soul music why not work it out yourself.  

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16/06/2018 at 21:34

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 16/06/2018 at 20:57


You're an intelligent man who likes blues and soul music why not work it out yourself.


No. Still fail to see it. The USA had slavery for far less a period than a lot of other places incidentally. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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16/06/2018 at 22:25

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 16/06/2018 at 21:34


No. Still fail to see it. The USA had slavery for far less a period than a lot of other places incidentally.



Did the white slave owners stop selling slaves once they married?

Did white slave owners always sell married slaves together to maintain the sanctity of marriage?

Did the white slave owners and their friends and relatives care whether the slave was married or not when they sexually abused them?

Slaves had no "normal" family life as we understand it, they had no role models to follow so it is no surprise that there are so many broken homes within the African American community.

Slavery told them in no uncertain terms that family life wasn't worth a thing.

Its not difficult to understand, especially for somebody who has listened to so many soul and blues records over the years.

Just as you became your Dad then African/Americans became their parents and their grandparents and their great grandparents before them.

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16/06/2018 at 22:48

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 16/06/2018 at 22:25



Did the white slave owners stop selling slaves once they married?

Did white slave owners always sell married slaves together to maintain the sanctity of marriage?

Did the white slave owners and their friends and relatives care whether the slave was married or not when they sexually abused them?

Slaves had no "normal" family life as we understand it, they had no role models to follow so it is no surprise that there are so many broken homes within the African American community.

Slavery told them in no uncertain terms that family life wasn't worth a thing.

Its not difficult to understand, especially for somebody who has listened to so many soul and blues records over the years.

Just as you became your Dad then African/Americans became their parents and their grandparents and their great grandparents before them.


What about all the other areas where slavery was carried out before and after slavery stopped in the USA? 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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17/06/2018 at 07:25

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 16/06/2018 at 22:48


What about all the other areas where slavery was carried out before and after slavery stopped in the USA?


What about them? We are discussing the rate of family breakdown amongst black communities in the United States and what affect slavery had, if any.  

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17/06/2018 at 09:41

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 17/06/2018 at 07:25


What about them? We are discussing the rate of family breakdown amongst black communities in the United States and what affect slavery had, if any.


Funny how the goings on in America concern so many whilst far worse things happening around the world don't concern the. Future genetations will wonder about the obsession with Trump whilst murderous dictators around the world escape any condemnation from them. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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