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Obadiah

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23/02/2018 at 12:08

I expect all those supporters of free speech on TOP's videos to be supporting vigorously the Texas school students threatened with suspension for exercising their rights to free speech

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade -point/wp/2018/02/21/a-texas-school-super intendent-threatens-to-suspend-students-p rotesting-gun-laws-but-thats-not-legal/?u tm_term=.cf80f6dabf4d

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Hulltim8 City AFC

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23/02/2018 at 12:44

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 23/02/2018 at 12:08
I expect all those supporters of free speech on TOP's videos to be supporting vigorously the Texas school students threatened with suspension for exercising their rights to free speech

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade -point/wp/2018/02/21/a-texas-school-super intendent-threatens-to-suspend-students-p rotesting-gun-laws-but-thats-not-legal/?u tm_term=.cf80f6dabf4d


They dream of the freedom of speech they had in Jezza's favourite spot the GDR or Putin's Russia. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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Obadiah

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23/02/2018 at 13:14

Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 23/02/2018 at 12:44


They dream of the freedom of speech they had in Jezza's favourite spot the GDR or Putin's Russia.


You're right the right wingers TOP regularly posts believe in the type of free speech in Soviet Russia. Free speech for them and their kind and them only. 

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17/04/2018 at 03:49

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 23/02/2018 at 13:14


You're right the right wingers TOP regularly posts believe in the type of free speech in Soviet Russia. Free speech for them and their kind and them only.


What you meant to say is "the moderate ones that TOP posts that are regularly deplatformed and drowned out by the extreme so-far-to-the-left-that-they're-almos t-coming-back-round-the-other-side-as-Naz is".

It's pot-kettle-and-black of the most utter extreme (and 10000000000% disingenuous of you) to claim the ones I posted only support free speech for their side and not everyone when that's unquestionably undeniably indubitably what the ones closing them down preach, practise, and believe, exactly as you clearly do. 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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17/04/2018 at 03:54

I changed my mind about the last few words, but it's no edit time again, so I can't delete them. 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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18/04/2018 at 09:06

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 17/04/2018 at 03:49


What you meant to say is "the moderate ones that TOP posts that are regularly deplatformed and drowned out by the extreme so-far-to-the-left-that-they're-almos t-coming-back-round-the-other-side-as-Naz is".

It's pot-kettle-and-black of the most utter extreme (and 10000000000% disingenuous of you) to claim the ones I posted only support free speech for their side and not everyone when that's unquestionably undeniably indubitably what the ones closing them down preach, practise, and believe, exactly as you clearly do.


Did the people you regularly post videos of go to Texas to defend the right of free speech for school students?  

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18/04/2018 at 12:15

The more I see of what passes for ‘debate’ these days the more of a free speech absolutist I become.

I hate the blurring of the lines by the creeping definition of ‘hate speech’ and I despair at the idea that de-platforming and pumping white noise over speakers is anything other than an act of political violence.

We have pogroms being erected on both sides of the spectrum instead of discussing and debating the ideologies that are driving this madness.

Post modernism is a cancer that will ultimately end up as muderous as all the other identity politics witch hunts that have cost us millions of lives and the Alt-right playing me-too will not be any different.

We have a fundamental need to be able to speak freely and to discuss and debate with civility - without free speech threre can be no free through.

Expensive silence is not an option.  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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18/04/2018 at 12:15

The more I see of what passes for ‘debate’ these days the more of a free speech absolutist I become.

I hate the blurring of the lines by the creeping definition of ‘hate speech’ and I despair at the idea that de-platforming and pumping white noise over speakers is anything other than an act of political violence.

We have pogroms being erected on both sides of the spectrum instead of discussing and debating the ideologies that are driving this madness.

Post modernism is a cancer that will ultimately end up as muderous as all the other identity politics witch hunts that have cost us millions of lives and the Alt-right playing me-too will not be any different.

We have a fundamental need to be able to speak freely and to discuss and debate with civility - without free speech threre can be no free through.

Expensive silence is not an option.  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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18/04/2018 at 12:15

The more I see of what passes for ‘debate’ these days the more of a free speech absolutist I become.

I hate the blurring of the lines by the creeping definition of ‘hate speech’ and I despair at the idea that de-platforming and pumping white noise over speakers is anything other than an act of political violence.

We have pogroms being erected on both sides of the spectrum instead of discussing and debating the ideologies that are driving this madness.

Post modernism is a cancer that will ultimately end up as muderous as all the other identity politics witch hunts that have cost us millions of lives and the Alt-right playing me-too will not be any different.

We have a fundamental need to be able to speak freely and to discuss and debate with civility - without free speech threre can be no free through.

Expensive silence is not an option.  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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candw

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18/04/2018 at 14:29

How.many times must we listen to the denigration of Blacks, for example, before we've heard enough from the racists? For ever? 

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19/04/2018 at 15:47

You need to hear it and call it out for what it is - ideas and ideologies need to be debated in the open - the post modern idea of protecting people from hate has just bred snowflake sensibilities and the lowest quality of debate with people reduced to shouting “nazi” at each other.  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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19/04/2018 at 17:42

So you genuinely believe that you can reason with a hatred that is irrational? Honestly? How did you make your millions with that level of naivety?

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19/04/2018 at 18:16


How.many times must we listen to the denigration of Jews, for example, before we've heard enough from the racists in the Labour Party? For ever?

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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19/04/2018 at 19:20

Quote Quote by candw on 19/04/2018 at 17:42
So you genuinely believe that you can reason with a hatred that is irrational? Honestly? How did you make your millions with that level of naivety?


Er No - I want the irrational to be seen and heard by people so they can be enlightened and the rational majority can debate and prevail instead of what we have in silly pockets today.

You can now choose and swap gender like fashion if you want.  

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19/04/2018 at 21:48

You mean there are people who don't know hating a person because of their skin colour is irrational?

As for the gender thing, if everyone was addressed as Comrade there would be no need for the shit that goes on.

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