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26416 posts #16 | CARILLI ON CONNING | |||||
11465 posts #17 | Shit run public sector | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
26416 posts #18 | But how would you train managers in UK up to Management 4.0 level? How do they do it on the.World? | |||||
11465 posts #19 | They make them work on the shop floor and truly understand what the company actually does to add value rather than take a few weeks off to do an MBA in spreadsheet and balance sheet Gymnastics. Real leadership creates and is only interested in real improvement. | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
26416 posts #20 | First, thank you for bothering to reply. It is almost as if a "Do not resuscitate" notice has been placed on this board.
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8890 posts #21 | Point of order to your post, candw - Shareholders haven't done ok, they've lost their investment. I'm guessing that the bulk of shares were held by banks and pension funds - who would have reinvested any dividends they received prior to 2017 anyway. So, indirectly, the general public have been screwed as well. The UK taxpayer will most likely have to pay up for the Carillion pension fund as well. | |||||
26416 posts #22 | OK, gull, thanks for that. | |||||
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#23 | Boys, if you want a government bail out to get ‘outraged’ about, then check out Branson’s East Coast Railway. Carillon’s anonymous directors will go to the wall along with thousands of decent feller’s jobs. Meanwhile slippery Richard, anti brexit pin up cunt, gets a two billion get out of jail card. Such cunts are on borrowed time, look at the States! | |||||
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11465 posts #24 |
Wasting your time Gull he doesn’t even understand basic economics - probably due to getting reports from the business blind corporation (BBC). The East Coast mainline turned a profit because it deferred massive sums required for capital expenditures. Known as putting lipstick on the pig it is a common ploy to make things look hunky dory to a prospective new owner. Anyone who travelled on it wasn’t fooled though. The trains, track and stations were utter shit holes. I read the perfect analysis of the ‘nowtsourcing’ debacle yesterday. Unable to run stuff themselves, civil servants under both shades of government outsourced it and then insisted on layers and layers of the very mountain of paperwork and management that had proven so useless in the first place. Those letting the contracts had made a handful of private sector companies look and behave just like the public sector. | |||||
Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce | ||||||
6437 posts #25 |
Civil Servants have always been able to run stuff themselves. Usually without mountains of paperwork. However, contracting out is an easy way of giving your mates lots and lots of taxpayers' money. It saves them having to compete in the real world with the Japanese, the Koreans, the French or the Germans. One consequence is the public sector has increasingly come to look like the worst of British industry not the other way around. The publicly owned East Coast line couldn't afford to renovate the stations and rolling stock so rather than borrow more money they made do with what they had. Virgin and Stagecoach can't afford to do it either so the Tories have allowed them to cut short the contract. | |||||
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