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11/01/2018 at 09:07

Non value added jobs for people who are not really needed - UK #1

Meanwhile manufacturing output at a ten year high so maybe we might have some real money to pay for some public services eh?  

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11/01/2018 at 10:12

Wow, nearly back to pre crash levels then? Don't spend it all at once. 

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11/01/2018 at 12:12

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 11/01/2018 at 09:07
Non value added jobs for people who are not really needed - UK #1

Meanwhile manufacturing output at a ten year high so maybe we might have some real money to pay for some public services eh?


But you are not disputing the low ratios of beds, doctors and nurses of UK v EU?

The number of people who are employed specifically as managers is much lower. As counted up by the Health and Social Care Information Centre, it is only around 51,000 people out of 1.17 million. This includes doctors and nurses who do full-time management roles. At a total 4% of the workforce, it compares to 10% in the UK economy as a whole.

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11/01/2018 at 17:39

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So our system doesn't do as well as other ones? Perhaps we should adopt some of their ways. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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11/01/2018 at 20:27

So being bottom in spending means we should be top in...?

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11/01/2018 at 20:40


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An NHS vicar's job in Norfolk.. £41k a year..

That's a few beds, 2 nurses or a house doctor.



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11/01/2018 at 21:00

Quote Quote by essexgull on 11/01/2018 at 20:40

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/vacancy/13efc6 a40372619ee600b711a27c794b/?vac_ref=91490 0162

An NHS vicar's job in Norfolk.. £41k a year..

That's a few beds, 2 nurses or a house doctor.



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There are plenty of non jobs in the pubsec which would pay for a lot of those things. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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11/01/2018 at 21:05

Quote Quote by candw on 11/01/2018 at 20:27
So being bottom in spending means we should be top in...?


France has started cancelling operations due to the flu outbreak. Is that down to the Tories?

Still, when Jezza gets in there won't be any flu outbreaks and everyone will be seen to in under 5 minutes.
Unless shop stewards are stopping ambulances entering hospitals and the dead remain unburied like in the Winter Of Discontent.

30,000 died in this country during the flu outbreak in 1968/1969. Seems the Tories are doing a better job of preserving life than the Labour Government did then. Especially as this Is a more virulent strain. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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Quote Quote by Hulltim8 City AFC on 11/01/2018 at 21:00


There are plenty of non jobs in the pubsec which would pay for a lot of those things.


It's not just the public sector - there's a huge imbalance with salaries in the private sector as well, which has resulted in UK employment demanding immigration for three decades now.

In theory, a front end worker, such as a bin man, ambulance technician, engineer, teacher etc. should earn more than the office worker inputting their details into a ready made accounting system to pay them, as they're adding more value to society, but this is often not the case.

The vast majority of administration should not earn higher salaries than the value creators, but this is how it is in the UK. Maybe a hangover from imperial times from the British Empire.


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12/01/2018 at 07:42

Well, of course, Labour also failed during the Black Death, if you wish to be silly.

Especially as this Is a more virulent strain.

50 years onwards. Blimey, we have learnt a bit.

France has started cancelling operations due to the flu outbreak. Is that down to the Tories?

LOL! That's ruined your little comeback.

The number of people who are employed specifically as managers is much lower. As counted up by the Health and Social Care Information Centre, it is only around 51,000 people out of 1.17 million. This includes doctors and nurses who do full-time management roles. At a total 4% of the workforce, it compares to 10% in the UK economy as a whole.

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12/01/2018 at 07:46

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 11/01/2018 at 09:07
Non value added jobs for people who are not really needed - UK #1

Meanwhile manufacturing output at a ten year high so maybe we might have some real money to pay for some public services eh?


All Our Yesterdays! We're back to Feb 2008. And much of that is due to a lower £. Still, a private sector triumph.

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13/01/2018 at 09:25

The NHS is still being debated and it's remarkable that very few discuss the actual reasons for the high cost to the taxpayer.

It's held together by the vocational medical staff - the nurses and doctors, and almost nobody has a problem with them. A vast majority of the NHS waste and it's 'losses' is through it's appalling procurement policies and then management of said goods, all due to abysmal, amateurish, wasteful management.

Every time the NHS is criticised, the doctors and nurses are agitated to defend it and tug on the nations heart strings, but no one has an issue with them - they're being used to hide the real problems that are 'too complicated' to allow the general public to actually comprehend.

Again, the issue isn't the number of managers compared to other health services, it's the fact that the ones there aren't doing their jobs properly and are coasting along, letting the medical staff take the flak.


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14/01/2018 at 10:31

Again, the issue isn't the number of managers compared to other health services, it's the fact that the ones there aren't doing their jobs properly and are coasting along, letting the medical staff take the flak.

You are right, we do need some foreign managers brought in.

The French cancelled ops due to a flu epidemic, I'm told. Could it be that NHS jabs have stopped us getting one? Well done NHS. Or is it just the we cancelled ours WITHOUT the epidemic? What the fuck would we then have cancelled if one had appeared?

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