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The Prince of Munster

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09/01/2018 at 19:57

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/pensions-retir ement/news/workers-50-face-tax-hike-pay-s tate-pensions-katie/

This is a bit of a problematic issue. I’ve a feeling it will be deciding elections between those under 40 (now) and those retired/retiring. 

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09/01/2018 at 20:16

But they will at least have the delight of living in the golden sunlight of a once more independent and great and wealthy free nation. 

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09/01/2018 at 23:55

But they will at least have the delight of living in the golden sunlight of a once more independent and great and wealthy free nation. 

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10/01/2018 at 08:30

Quote Quote by The Prince of Munster on 09/01/2018 at 19:57
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/pensions-retir ement/news/workers-50-face-tax-hike-pay-s tate-pensions-katie/

This is a bit of a problematic issue. I’ve a feeling it will be deciding elections between those under 40 (now) and those retired/retiring.


There will no doubt be generational voting but the grey vote remains significant and largely selfish.

While we hear constant reports about state pension & NHS funding shortfalls and the Brexit divorce bill I'm surprised the government still raises the personal tax allowances every year. £11,500 to £11,850. Instead of raising tax or NI why don't they just freeze the tax allowances first or doesn't this cover the shortfalls?  

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10/01/2018 at 11:13

Strange. The general public have been told for the last 15 years that we need large scale immigration to cover the pension shortfall. It now turns out that the under-50s will be taxed more to cover it.


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10/01/2018 at 16:38

Busted flush

Unable to cash cheques without sufficient funds.

Decades of weak leadership of both parties coming home to roost.

UK = spend to pretend

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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10/01/2018 at 19:50

UK = tax no more, go offshore

UK = Wear a vest, don't invest

UK = Brexit so shit

UK = EU is wank, sell out to a Yank

This is fun!

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The Prince of Munster

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10/01/2018 at 20:28

Quote Quote by essexgull on 10/01/2018 at 11:13
Strange. The general public have been told for the last 15 years that we need large scale immigration to cover the pension shortfall. It now turns out that the under-50s will be taxed more to cover it.


ESSEX GULL


Well I jolly well won’t, I’ll emigrate and be a burden to someone else. 

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11/01/2018 at 17:06

Living abroad, outside the UK, isn't for every British person. It's all about a compromise, but aside from missing family and some of the countryside, the bad outweighed the good for me, certainly regarding living with a family in London.

The internet helps regarding staying in touch, getting the news and purchasing things etc. I had a year in Chicago and 15 months in Cape Town before we moved here - if I was single and alone, I'd definitely stay in either of those two cities rather than where I am now, and definitely in preference to living in the UK.

The longer I'm away, the less likely I am to move back - detest the class system, schooling inequality, reliance still for many on the old boy network, the chav masses and unappreciative cultures draining the public purse and the money and time wasted on political games within the public sector - it's all magnified when you live abroad and come back and see it. A once solid country being picked apart at the seams, but things will improve eventually.



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The Prince of Munster

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12/01/2018 at 10:46

I’m far from convinced other countries don’t have issues with unruly, gobshite youths and also bits of a “I’m better than thou” class system. 

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12/01/2018 at 11:11

Quote Quote by The Prince of Munster on 12/01/2018 at 10:46
I’m far from convinced other countries don’t have issues with unruly, gobshite youths and also bits of a “I’m better than thou” class system.


The two cities Gull has lived in have some of the highest murder rates in the world, Chicago averages about 700 a year and Cape Town 2500, the whole of Norway averages just 30.  

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12/01/2018 at 14:10

Is that homicide or murder, Ted? The two are different and it’s made more complex by different definitions and groupings by country. 

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The Prince of Munster

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12/01/2018 at 14:18

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 10/01/2018 at 08:30


There will no doubt be generational voting but the grey vote remains significant and largely selfish.

While we hear constant reports about state pension & NHS funding shortfalls and the Brexit divorce bill I'm surprised the government still raises the personal tax allowances every year. £11,500 to £11,850. Instead of raising tax or NI why don't they just freeze the tax allowances first or doesn't this cover the shortfalls?


People don’t like paying more tax, it’s as simple as that. No one is standing on a platform saying that or I’m going to cut the state pension, get rid of the winter fuel allowance or make cuts to the NHS.

Ideally it would probably be useful to scrap things like VAT and council tax, work out how much the country needs to run the whole of the public sector and have one flat rate of about 48.73% income tax (for people and business).

It wouldn’t be popular because half your wages going to the gov’t sounds a lot. 

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