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Obadiah

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13/12/2017 at 10:41

Another success for Andy as he claims his 15 minutes of fame.

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exiled CITY AFC

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13/12/2017 at 14:32

Quote Quote by imperishablehcfc on 13/12/2017 at 10:37
Me Gull, same as normal, working hard, accepting responsibility for my own actions, helping people where I can, and not chasing anything beyond my means

Quite fulfilling really old bean


+1

Getting quite sick of the shell game that is the 'poverty industry'

So poverty is now not being able to charge your £1000 phone...

If poverty is a function of a position relative to the average even GCSE maths will tell you it's impossible to solve.

'Working poverty' note is a new term which I think means my current job can't pay me what I need given the choices I have made...
....or circumstances I have found myself in.  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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13/12/2017 at 15:53

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 13/12/2017 at 14:32


+1

Getting quite sick of the shell game that is the 'poverty industry'

So poverty is now not being able to charge your £1000 phone...

If poverty is a function of a position relative to the average even GCSE maths will tell you it's impossible to solve.

'Working poverty' note is a new term which I think means my current job can't pay me what I need given the choices I have made...
....or circumstances I have found myself in.


You cannot be this stupid. It's impossible.

If you have a job, 2 children and your salary stays the same for 5 years, whilst your rent goes up 50%, food up 30%, energy costs up 20%, childcare up 20% and so on, you and your family are getting poorer... and in many cases, slip into poverty.

This is simple economics.

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exiled CITY AFC

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13/12/2017 at 16:50

If you assume total in-action on the part of the 'victim'.

Anyone who doesn't do anything while that is happening is obvs 'piss poor' with money and at adjusting lifestyle to suit.

My wife just retired early with no pension for another 8 years should we carry on as before or just ignore that fact that her income has gone?

I am through with people who do fuck all despite clear and unambiguous issues and then blame someone else for their predicament. I remember getting a hard time a various points in my life when I decided to pull things back a bit, tighten the belt, play the long game and those cunts are now saying "lucky bastard".

Yeah right 'simpleton economics' maybe  

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13/12/2017 at 17:06

I do wonder why you're so full of hatred and bitterness.

You've survived and flourished off the back of problems. Others have collapsed and need help. Why begrudge or mock them for it.


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13/12/2017 at 18:35

Quote Quote by essexgull on 13/12/2017 at 15:53


You cannot be this stupid. It's impossible.

If you have a job, 2 children and your salary stays the same for 5 years, whilst your rent goes up 50%, food up 30%, energy costs up 20%, childcare up 20% and so on, you and your family are getting poorer... and in many cases, slip into poverty.

This is simple economics.

ESSEX GULL


Here's a starter for 10

Energy costs, through a combination of switching and being sensible wrt to usage my energy bills haven't risen at all for half of your 5 year period.

Food costs up 30% , check out the 5 year graph

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingd om/food-inflation


Rent costs up 50% - UK ave? I doubt it very much

Did you know, some people actually look to add to their incomings when times are hard, just a thought. 

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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13/12/2017 at 20:32

I guess I don't have as a low opinion of yourself, than you do, Peri old bean.

Just because you have the right coping and survival mechanisms, doesn't mean everyone else has them. It could just be that you are 'better' at life than many. You also could be 'luckier,' regarding life choices and pitfalls.

Either way, should the UK allow children to fall between the cracks in society, because of their parents' poor decisions/luck/whatever?

What's the point of being the 6th-15th wealthiest country in the world if you can't give children basic food and housing (100k British children spending Xmas in hostels with their families...)


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13/12/2017 at 21:09

the point is i don't believe there are kids that can't charge there phones at home, how old are these kids? If old enough to have a phone then old enough to know they shouldnt waste money on one if they don't have the means to charge it. The truth will be more likely that they 'need' charging at school cos there on them all fucking day at school.

Kids can have basic food so long as adults don't deny them it, any that don't get fed should be in care, as their parents obviously aint capable 

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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14/12/2017 at 01:59

Quote Quote by essexgull on 13/12/2017 at 20:32
I guess I don't have as a low opinion of yourself, than you do, Peri old bean.
Just because you have the right coping and survival mechanisms, doesn't mean everyone else has them. It could just be that you are 'better' at life than many. You also could be 'luckier,' regarding life choices and pitfalls.
Either way, should the UK allow children to fall between the cracks in society, because of their parents' poor decisions/luck/whatever?
What's the point of being the 6th-15th wealthiest country in the world if you can't give children basic food and housing (100k British children spending Xmas in hostels with their families...)
ESSEX GULL


FFS leave it out with the X wealthiest country it’s a busted flush we are using credit to PRETEND we are at that level.
Fuck knows when we will get round to being honest and then paying for it.
Meanwhile we learn today that 95% of the 23000 Jihad’s we are watching here in the UK are on Benefits and presumably ‘in poverty’. None of us want kids having a shit start in life so why are we incentivising idiots with no prospects to have them? In Bangladesh the have better birth control in poor families and hence they have lifted hundreds of thousands out of poverty.

Luck is not a causal factor for the general case here. For someone so rational in the past you seem so feelings led of late.. 

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14/12/2017 at 07:47

In Bangladesh the have better birth control in poor families and hence they have lifted hundreds of thousands out of poverty.

LOL! That's why we need immigrant labour. OUR birth control is much better than Bangladesh's.

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14/12/2017 at 08:45

Just been for my morning walk (keep fit cost zero) , amazed at the amount of people grabbing a £3 coffee from our local Costa, a fair percentage of them prob on their way to their minimum wage job, possibly even supplemented by some form of benefits and then being classed as 'in poverty'. Wonder if that £60 a month would do them any good, if nowt else they could work half an hour less per day for the same disposable income.

Later whilst my missus goes for her cheap groupon visit to the hairdressers I'll be doing another hours walk delivering cards etc to the family, savings galore whilst those in poverty will be having their prime time hair do followed by a trip to the gym.

Poverty you couldn't make it up, oh and ffs don't get me going on 'poverty' financed tattoos

How many hours phone charging do you think you could have for the price of one tatt, answers on a post card. 

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14/12/2017 at 10:06

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 14/12/2017 at 01:59


FFS leave it out with the X wealthiest country it’s a busted flush we are using credit to PRETEND we are at that level.
Fuck knows when we will get round to being honest and then paying for it.
Meanwhile we learn today that 95% of the 23000 Jihad’s we are watching here in the UK are on Benefits and presumably ‘in poverty’. None of us want kids having a shit start in life so why are we incentivising idiots with no prospects to have them? In Bangladesh the have better birth control in poor families and hence they have lifted hundreds of thousands out of poverty.

Luck is not a causal factor for the general case here. For someone so rational in the past you seem so feelings led of late..


So do you measure the US as the poorest country in the world, due to the national debt?


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14/12/2017 at 10:07

How fucking utterly smug can one early retired person be? Answers on a postcard. 

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14/12/2017 at 10:07

Quote Quote by imperishablehcfc on 14/12/2017 at 08:45
Just been for my morning walk (keep fit cost zero) , amazed at the amount of people grabbing a £3 coffee from our local Costa, a fair percentage of them prob on their way to their minimum wage job, possibly even supplemented by some form of benefits and then being classed as 'in poverty'. Wonder if that £60 a month would do them any good, if nowt else they could work half an hour less per day for the same disposable income.

Later whilst my missus goes for her cheap groupon visit to the hairdressers I'll be doing another hours walk delivering cards etc to the family, savings galore whilst those in poverty will be having their prime time hair do followed by a trip to the gym.

Poverty you couldn't make it up, oh and ffs don't get me going on 'poverty' financed tattoos

How many hours phone charging do you think you could have for the price of one tatt, answers on a post card.


You do realise that your assumptions of the wealth of coffee purchasers are just your fantasies, right?


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14/12/2017 at 10:09

Quote Quote by candw on 14/12/2017 at 10:07
How fucking utterly smug can one early retired person be? Answers on a postcard.


Delivering Xmas cards by hand and musing on the wealth of random coffee buying strangers... Sounds like Peri needs a part time job. Is he even 60 yet? He could be picking cucumbers in Lincolnshire.


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