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15/11/2017 at 21:34

So since Brexit we now have 300k less foreign born workers since the vote and remarkably in the same period 280k Brits have now found work.

Unemployment is down to a 43year low and wait-for-it wages are up (2.5%) and - I am not lying - productivity has gone up for the first time since forever...

Of course these official figures have been buried by the MSM who for decades told us migrant labour was not suppressing wages and were not taking jobs as remember Brits didn't want to do them...

The guardian shamelessly even spun these latest ONS figures to suggest it represented a wage squeeze.

We just cannot trust any news to be honest now can we?

What news media there was briefly talked about employers now having to pay a living wage to get Brits back into work rather than paying less to some EU migrants who will live six to a room in London and work for next to nowt.

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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15/11/2017 at 22:24

Inflation is still outstripping wages and doesn't include the cost of housing. Now if wages had risen 7% then you'd have something to shout about.

I don't know where you got the idea the news was honest, except, maybe, for the Financial Times. 

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16/11/2017 at 07:57

Could you possibly reference these miracle figures. The raw ones will do; ie you needn't accept that real wages are still falling.

I'm not saying I don't trust you, but would rather ask the horse.

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16/11/2017 at 08:28

Well?

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16/11/2017 at 10:19

Inflation is running at 3% for the UK excluding housing, so a 2.5% wage increase is effectively a loss...


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17/11/2017 at 01:09

Candy you should know I only quote from reputable sources - unlike the starving African meme that was decades out of date - ONS released these figures early in the week but for some reason the news was BURIED.

On the wages vs. Inflation

Yes I get that 100% but the point is for the first time we are getting sustained wage increases AND now (finally) the productivity is coming so there is literally NO downside to these figures unless you are cherry picking one month in isolation as the Guardian did, or you run a migrant worker employment agency.

As I said the figures are an inconvenient truth for many who have told us migrant labour was good for us over the last decade or so.

Still won't stop the old gang politics being used to hoodwink the general population.

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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17/11/2017 at 02:59

Candy you should know I only quote from reputable sources - unlike the starving African meme that was decades out of date - ONS released these figures early in the week but for some reason the news was BURIED.

On the wages vs. Inflation

Yes I get that 100% but the point is for the first time we are getting sustained wage increases AND now (finally) the productivity is coming so there is literally NO downside to these figures unless you are cherry picking one month in isolation as the Guardian did, or you run a migrant worker employment agency.

As I said the figures are an inconvenient truth for many who have told us migrant labour was good for us over the last decade or so.

Still won't stop the old gang politics being used to hoodwink the general population.

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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17/11/2017 at 15:19

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 17/11/2017 at 01:09
Candy you should know I only quote from reputable sources - unlike the starving African meme that was decades out of date - ONS released these figures early in the week but for some reason the news was BURIED.

You mean they are no longer starving in Africa?

https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20171108&t=2&i=1209018174&r=LYNXMPEDA71Z6&w=1280

So a clever fucker like you can't find them? Amazing! I found something you seem to have ignored.

Read this.

On the wages vs. Inflation

Yes I get that 100% but the point is for the first time we are getting sustained wage increases AND now (finally) the productivity is coming so there is literally NO downside to these figures unless you are cherry picking one month in isolation as the Guardian did, or you run a migrant worker employment agency.

Don't be silly. A slight wage increase and it's below inflation. And I have searched the entire web and can find NO entry that backs up your claim of increased productivity. Just about further lagging behind real countries.

As I said the figures are an inconvenient truth for many who have told us migrant labour was good for us over the last decade or so.

You have totally ignored the fact that more foreigners are working than ever before and use that lie to show that our woes are down to immigrants. And the employment figures are very dodgy because there are fewer people in employment than last quarter.

Still won't stop the old gang politics being used to hoodwink the general population.

Says the man with the "disappearing figures" that would have proved his case. LOL!

We just cannot trust any news to be honest now can we?

 

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17/11/2017 at 19:10

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 17/11/2017 at 01:09
Candy you should know I only quote from reputable sources - unlike the starving African meme that was decades out of date - ONS released these figures early in the week but for some reason the news was BURIED.

You mean they are no longer starving in Africa?

https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20171108&t=2&i=1209018174&r=LYNXMPEDA71Z6&w=1280

So a clever fucker like you can't find them? Amazing! I found something you seem to have ignored.

Read this.

On the wages vs. Inflation

Yes I get that 100% but the point is for the first time we are getting sustained wage increases AND now (finally) the productivity is coming so there is literally NO downside to these figures unless you are cherry picking one month in isolation as the Guardian did, or you run a migrant worker employment agency.

Don't be silly. A slight wage increase and it's below inflation. And I have searched the entire web and can find NO entry that backs up your claim of increased productivity. Just about further lagging behind real countries.

As I said the figures are an inconvenient truth for many who have told us migrant labour was good for us over the last decade or so.

You have totally ignored the fact that more foreigners are working than ever before and use that lie to show that our woes are down to immigrants. And the employment figures are very dodgy because there are fewer people in employment than last quarter.

Still won't stop the old gang politics being used to hoodwink the general population.

Says the man with the "disappearing figures" that would have proved his case. LOL!

We just cannot trust any news to be honest now can we?

 

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18/11/2017 at 23:55

Just go to the ONS figures

Why go to spinderella sources like the telegraph ? 

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19/11/2017 at 10:18

...ONS released these figures early in the week but for some reason the news was BURIED.

Spinderella, eh?

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19/11/2017 at 11:07

I am amazed that the Torygraph, strongly pro-Brexit, would try to sabotage another example of the Tory Economic Miracle so blatantly.

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19/11/2017 at 12:59

Yes, things were so better with inflation at 25% after another period of Labour mismanagement in the 1970s. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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19/11/2017 at 13:39

What I find staggering is people's wailing and gnashing when the days of austerity reckoning come. With a structural deficit what do people expect?

What is the best way to get rid of our structural deficit?

How long should each 'splurge' on the credit card last?

What debt to GDP ratio is 'acceptable' ?

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19/11/2017 at 13:40

Was the US not going through a period of abnormally high inflation at the same time, under the governments of Nixon and Ford, that then carried on under Carter?

Anyone would have thought that huge global economic events and changes were happening that were largely outside the control of nation states during that decade...



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