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candw

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30/08/2017 at 12:06

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31/08/2017 at 12:24

"So not even Mr Absolutely Fucking Enraged of a village near Hull is slightly miffed about this?" said candw, pretending to be outraged at the lack of response.

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01/09/2017 at 08:28

spot the difference eh - ----- beats me, there isn't any 

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01/09/2017 at 08:47

spot the difference eh - ----- beats me, there isn't any 

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02/09/2017 at 19:35

Can't wait for someone to suggest that some of the muslim refugees should be adopted by Mr and Mr Goldstein 

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02/09/2017 at 20:36

You either don't care if the national newspapers deliberately lie to further hatred of Muslims, or...

Or nothing, I suppose.

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exiled CITY AFC

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02/09/2017 at 22:06

They used a stock image and photoshop to illustrate their story...

They couldn't identify the real child or the family for legal reasons

So (as all papers do on occasion) they use a stock image

Have I missed something here?

The picture is entirely consistent with the story

I'd say who ever uncovered this 'conspiracy' is a bit on the dim side

PS In case you are struggling i don't think this picture in either version is the real family in question  

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03/09/2017 at 09:18

I despair of you, exiled. All that money and so few brains. Change that. Some brains, more prejudice.

1 the child wasn't Christian

2 the mother wasn't Christian, but of a Muslim background, as well as being an alcoholic and a drug user.

3 the foster family could and do speak English

4 They have fostered an several occasions for the council

5 the Christian grandmother isn't Christian and doesn't speak English and doesn't wish to stay here

6 the placement was only temporary until said grandmother could be vetted.

7 the photoshopping of the full face veil was 'convenient'.

8 If you think this was "just a human story" you really do have no brains. 

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exiled CITY AFC

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03/09/2017 at 10:56

So why post the picture that you did then?.

I didnt take much heed of the original story as most news is fake now anyway - your pics and memes are part of the problem - you pass unsourced stuff around like a mucky mag in a playground...

Tedious stuff.

Why not get angry about the real stuff that you should be instead of national newspapers fighting their inevitable death spiral? 

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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03/09/2017 at 11:33

You mean like the death - the killing, of course - of the NHS? Leaving EU to get similar deals from scratch with our present trading partners? (And the fucking immigrants will still come!!!!!) Well, of course, I worry about those too.

And if you think stoking prejudice against a part of the population of this country by a national newspaper is not "real stuff", roll on the rebirth of the Völkischer Beobachter, eh?

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03/09/2017 at 16:37

The British public are happy to be lied to if it is aligned with their pre-existing prejudices... See Brexit lying, Pakistani grooming gang faux-outrages and so on.



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03/09/2017 at 20:21

The British people see what goes on on their own streets and many view from afar towns they don't wish to emulate.

Immigration WITH assimilation is largely the story of the British Isles but we all know there have been exceptions. In general the second generation of immigrants create their own take on Britishness and in general working class youth have embraced that often after some growing pains.

Punks and reggae
Two Tone
Soul II Soul
Etc.

The Muslim situation is only newsworthy because the pattern is not repeating and the violence is nothing like what we have seen before hence it is understood as terrorism.

What we have learned is a failure to integrate causes problems and we know that there are aspects of the religion that prevent integration at a basic level (basic socialisation for example around alcohol) and at an extreme level with incompatible beliefs and values - FGM the role of women, the status of Kufir women, tolerance of the intolerable.

Multiculturalism has failed as its tolerance limits have been breached - don't ask the white population ask the black, Chinese, Jews and sikhs their opinions.

The biggest prejudices I see in daily life are reverse racism (impossible according to idiots who have never seen it), class prejudice, educational snobbery and the perception of white working class people from just about evenryone. Nowhere else in the world do the middle class and those who think they are above fray act like they do in the UK.

The NHS and the EU seem to be doing a good enough job of fucking things up themselves frankly they don't need newspapers to do much. I was in a hospital this week listening to all the clinicians tell me the reason people are dying on trolleys was due to the lack of social care places. We checked - it was less than 2% that were in that situation. The people though now have the number one reason to slack off and the public just nod when the lie is fed to them. Of yeah of course it's true I heard it on the BBC.

Tell me what exactly is the prejudice that is being stoked by the foster story?

That Muslim families have a very different set of values to that of other faiths?
That Muslim families don't speak English?

Let me know what exactly you are worrying about...

I really think there are much bigger issues than perceived prejudice regarding muslims. But then again I probably live in the most multicultural city and not in a white ghetto than anyone else on here. Tell me what I am missing?  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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03/09/2017 at 20:48

The NHS and the EU seem to be doing a good enough job of fucking things up themselves frankly they don't need newspapers to do much.

Your stupidity is legion! it's not the papers doing anything to the NHS, it's the Tories. And the EU is doing rather better than the home of the March of the Makers, which is Open for Business.

...the reason people are dying on trolleys was due to the lack of social care places. We checked - it was less than 2% that were in that situation.

You went round and asked all the people on trolleys if they needed social care? Are you so fucking thick as to think only those needing social care were on the trolleys, or that beds were blocked for all by lack of social care for those that need it?

That Muslim families have a very different set of values to that of other faiths?
That Muslim families don't speak English?

Let me know what exactly you are worrying about...


I did explain the first questions and I thought I was worrying about the fact that a newspaper can deliberately post lies of this magnitude, or post malicious stories, planted by others, with no check. You feel that's fair game as you're a business person - and self-appointed inspector of NHS hospitals - as lies are fine and if a retraction is required it can be put on Page 19

Tell me what I am missing?

Anything you want to to suit your prejudices. Living in your failed city.

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03/09/2017 at 21:31

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 03/09/2017 at 20:21
The British people see what goes on on their own streets and many view from afar towns they don't wish to emulate.

Immigration WITH assimilation is largely the story of the British Isles but we all know there have been exceptions. In general the second generation of immigrants create their own take on Britishness and in general working class youth have embraced that often after some growing pains.

Punks and reggae
Two Tone
Soul II Soul
Etc.

The Muslim situation is only newsworthy because the pattern is not repeating and the violence is nothing like what we have seen before hence it is understood as terrorism.

What we have learned is a failure to integrate causes problems and we know that there are aspects of the religion that prevent integration at a basic level (basic socialisation for example around alcohol) and at an extreme level with incompatible beliefs and values - FGM the role of women, the status of Kufir women, tolerance of the intolerable.

Multiculturalism has failed as its tolerance limits have been breached - don't ask the white population ask the black, Chinese, Jews and sikhs their opinions.

The biggest prejudices I see in daily life are reverse racism (impossible according to idiots who have never seen it), class prejudice, educational snobbery and the perception of white working class people from just about evenryone. Nowhere else in the world do the middle class and those who think they are above fray act like they do in the UK.

The NHS and the EU seem to be doing a good enough job of fucking things up themselves frankly they don't need newspapers to do much. I was in a hospital this week listening to all the clinicians tell me the reason people are dying on trolleys was due to the lack of social care places. We checked - it was less than 2% that were in that situation. The people though now have the number one reason to slack off and the public just nod when the lie is fed to them. Of yeah of course it's true I heard it on the BBC.

Tell me what exactly is the prejudice that is being stoked by the foster story?

That Muslim families have a very different set of values to that of other faiths?
That Muslim families don't speak English?

Let me know what exactly you are worrying about...

I really think there are much bigger issues than perceived prejudice regarding muslims. But then again I probably live in the most multicultural city and not in a white ghetto than anyone else on here. Tell me what I am missing?


The British public, in the main, want to hear what affirms their beliefs, whether is a lie or truth. The media caters to this to generate advertising income and to push the influence of those paying them.

British wages have stalled in real growth, whereas many company owners, senior management and shareholders have seen their wealth double or even treble in a decade. Much of the media has blamed EU immigration for this and it's easier for many to point the finger at the foreign enemy earning minimum wage, rather than those rinsing it.

Likewise, identify an easy enemy at the moment ie. The Irish in the 1960s - 1960s, blacks and Indians from the 1950s to now, single mothers, currently the Muslims/refugees and take the focus away from those who really are destroying the UK for their own gain.

You go on about groups of men from a community abusing girls and children and use it to denigrate their whole culture to perpetuate the enemy distraction. Yet over the last 30 years, tens of thousands of Northern European men, our culture, have travelled to South East Asia to abuse and rape children and teenage girls. Why have you not spoken out about this before or started petitions and campaigns to rid our culture of these perverts? How is this any different? Face it, men of all cultures and races are able to abuse children and vulnerable girls because we simply don't care enough as a society to spend time and money protecting those who need it - tax cuts for the wealthy is deemed more important to current human advancement than protection of the helpless.


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