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16/09/2017 at 16:52



>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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16/09/2017 at 17:27

Are you Mary Whitehouse in disguise, ToP?

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17/09/2017 at 04:45

https://heterodoxacademy.org/

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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17/09/2017 at 09:32

Until the last couple of weeks, ToP, if I saw you as the last poster I'd look forward to your careful take on events. Now I think, "Oh fuck, it's the alt Right view on something else!" I don't expect you to care.  

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17/09/2017 at 10:11

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Free speech alive and well in Berkeley. One was arrested for having a placard with a stick on it. Amazing.

He calls people morons and its free speech. People call him a white supremacist and its wrong. If he believed in free speech he'd defend their right to call him a white supremacist. He then goes on to attack a private corporation for the people it employs because he doesn't agree with their views. He could always watch another channel, there's so many in the US to choose from.

What he really wants is free speech for the right only.

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19/09/2017 at 14:17



>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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19/09/2017 at 14:38

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 17/09/2017 at 10:11


Free speech alive and well in Berkeley. One was arrested for having a placard with a stick on it. Amazing.

He calls people morons and its free speech. People call him a white supremacist and its wrong. If he believed in free speech he'd defend their right to call him a white supremacist. He then goes on to attack a private corporation for the people it employs because he doesn't agree with their views. He could always watch another channel, there's so many in the US to choose from.

What he really wants is free speech for the right only.



Your ability to miss the point and to go round in circles is mind boggling. The two people in the US most often labelled as Nazis by the mad end of the left spectrum are both Jews. There seems to be an opinion on here that because I'm having a go at the promotion by half the USA media of the extreme left idiocy of the fascist-tendency group Antifa, as well as Antifa itself, that I'm attacking the entire left half of the spectrum, which is complete rubbish. 

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19/09/2017 at 15:05

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 19/09/2017 at 14:38


Your ability to miss the point and to go round in circles is mind boggling. The two people in the US most often labelled as Nazis by the mad end of the left spectrum are both Jews. There seems to be an opinion on here that because I'm having a go at the promotion by half the USA media of the extreme left idiocy of the fascist-tendency group Antifa, as well as Antifa itself, that I'm attacking the entire left half of the spectrum, which is complete rubbish.


You call me a lunatic, albeit by association, then complain about some people using their right to free speech to call a Jew a Nazi.

The bloke whose video you posted complained about the violent left. There were very few arrests and one of the examples he used was for someone having a placard with a stick. The man knows what he's doing. Its guilt by association, something the US right is well versed in. Its ok when they are dishing it out and calling all and sundry commies but when they get a taste of their own medicine they stamp their little feet, screaming its not fair.  

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19/09/2017 at 15:07

But I hope you're not suggesting that Jews can't be Nazis. Are you? I mean, many learnt from the Nazis how to function, eg as in Oradour sur Glane type over kill in Gaza.

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19/09/2017 at 17:08

This 'debate' is clearly happening between someone who has been following developments in detail in USA for a while and those that are not even bothering to play catch up.

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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19/09/2017 at 21:44

You've followed your bits, I've followed mine.

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19/09/2017 at 22:54

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 19/09/2017 at 17:08
This 'debate' is clearly happening between someone who has been following developments in detail in USA for a while and those that are not even bothering to play catch up.



Your right I take generally what you and TOP say about the US and watch most of the videos TOP puts up.

Serves me right, I should do more research. Antifa's Facebook page has less than 10,000 likes. In contrast Hull Tigers has over a million.

At the recent Berkeley protest 13 arrests were made. More people were arrested and charged at the Grimsby Sheffield United match.

I wonder how many were arrested at the Charlottesville protest in which one person was killed. A grand total of 8, yes 8. The arrests at the two protests together are less than those charged in Grimsby.

You really want me to believe this group are a serious threat to free speech in the US? If you do you're talking bollocks.  

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22/09/2017 at 04:21

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 19/09/2017 at 15:05


You call me a lunatic, albeit by association, then complain about some people using their right to free speech to call a Jew a Nazi.

The bloke whose video you posted complained about the violent left. There were very few arrests and one of the examples he used was for someone having a placard with a stick. The man knows what he's doing. Its guilt by association, something the US right is well versed in. Its ok when they are dishing it out and calling all and sundry commies but when they get a taste of their own medicine they stamp their little feet, screaming its not fair.


Far be it from me to mess with your self image, but I expected the fact that I have repeatedly referred to the "extreme left" and to those leftists who are anti-reason, anti-free speech, anti-logic, and anti-science as the loonies I've been talking about might have been enough to give you an unmissable hint that I considered you not to be of that ilk, based on the fact that you appeared prepared to take part in some sort of meaningful discourse. I beg your pardon for my error.

The bloke in the video is indeed of the right, but not the far right. You've persistently argued that the other team isn't allowed to disagree with what your team has said about him and others while missing all the clues about speakers being de-platformed by your team. And you're the one claiming others have double standards.

The police were stood down by Charlottesville's Democrat. This left agitators free to use whatever violence they wanted to without repercussions. The same happened in Berkeley. This is why there were so few arrests. 

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22/09/2017 at 05:19

by Charlottesville's Democrat Mayor, that should have said. 

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22/09/2017 at 07:28

Quote Quote by theotherphantom on 22/09/2017 at 04:21


Far be it from me to mess with your self image, but I expected the fact that I have repeatedly referred to the "extreme left" and to those leftists who are anti-reason, anti-free speech, anti-logic, and anti-science as the loonies I've been talking about might have been enough to give you an unmissable hint that I considered you not to be of that ilk, based on the fact that you appeared prepared to take part in some sort of meaningful discourse. I beg your pardon for my error.

The bloke in the video is indeed of the right, but not the far right. You've persistently argued that the other team isn't allowed to disagree with what your team has said about him and others while missing all the clues about speakers being de-platformed by your team. And you're the one claiming others have double standards.

The police were stood down by Charlottesville's Democrat. This left agitators free to use whatever violence they wanted to without repercussions. The same happened in Berkeley. This is why there were so few arrests.


I am one of what you call the extreme left and have been for decades.

Ben Shapiro said the cops did their jobs which is why there was so little violence and why his "right to free speech" was guaranteed at Berkeley. Seems you disagree with him.

I have not said he's not allowed to say what he says. What I've said is he using Antifa to intimidate the liberal democrats into doing what he wants. Which seems to be getting more of his co-thinkers jobs in the media and universities. It is a very crude red scare tactic used consistently by the US right wing for over a century. Antifa is a stick to beat the liberal democrats and he knows it. He is a charlatan. 

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