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essexgull

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19/06/2017 at 15:09

Quote Quote by candw on 19/06/2017 at 09:37
"You're no Clean Shaven White Man, bro!"


He's not a real Clean Shaven White man.

He's twisted a peaceful close shave and turned it into fuel for hate.


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19/06/2017 at 15:16

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 19/06/2017 at 14:43
What's the difference between a Christian driving a van into people and a Muslim doing the same?

Not very much from where I sit.


Shouldn't Corbyn be visiting a village fete and singing Don't Look Back in Anger with members of the WI, whilst appealing for calm, rather than sympathising with victims of this latest attack?


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19/06/2017 at 18:23

Jeremy Corbyn is overcome with emotion - what an absolute lying cunt 

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19/06/2017 at 19:17

Quote Quote by Obadiah on 19/06/2017 at 14:43
What's the difference between a Christian driving a van into people and a Muslim doing the same?

Not very much from where I sit.


Nothing much...except one scripture justifies it in their holy book a few times and the other does so only once.

One religion is going through a literalist phase at the moment with many adherents thinking it is the literal word of god given to an illiterate goat herder and the other is a post enlightenment pragmatic flock not normally given to such excesses.

Apart from that the same - no doubt after a couple of decades we will see the proportion of violent acts show in the actual ratios or we could just use the wealth of historical data we have to point us towards what is likely to happen.

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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19/06/2017 at 19:26

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19/06/2017 at 19:42

Is there an obvious reason - from your deep knowledge of Islam - why the 2,500,000 who live here without driving into anyone or exploding are not driven by this magic book to join in?

The clean shaven white man was obviously no more a Christian than the Manchester/London killers were Muslim. And people who are not brain dead all know that.

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19/06/2017 at 19:51

He wasn't overcome with emotion, he expressed his opinions on the event with a certain amount of emotion, as human beings do. A Tory prefers the emotion shown by Mrs Gummidge, from behind a police cordon, when she's been called out for staying away.

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19/06/2017 at 19:54

Quote Quote by candw on 19/06/2017 at 19:42
Is there an obvious reason - from your deep knowledge of Islam - why the 2,500,000 who live here without driving into anyone or exploding are not driven by this magic book to join in?

The clean shaven white man was obviously no more a Christian than the Manchester/London killers were Muslim. And people who are not brain dead all know that.


1) Yes read the book

2) wrong - see point 1  

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candw

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19/06/2017 at 20:49

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 19/06/2017 at 19:54


1) Yes read the book

2) wrong - see point 1


I'm actually beginning to believe you actually wrote it.

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19/06/2017 at 20:57

The book mentions multiple times that to die via jihad is the best form of entering the paradise especially for those who have lead a less than devout and upright life. Think of it as akin to catholic confession with a lot more violence.

When western commentators wonder out loud why the perps of these attacks drank alcohol or like the 9/11 hijackers attended titty bars and collected pornographry they show their own ignorance. The book expressly urges the most sinful to put their lives right by martyrdom via jihad.

This is why many such folk are middle aged, have a life of low level crime and are hence 'known' to authorities.

The clean shaven Christian (is he a Christian?) by contrast appears from protestations at the scene to be seeking revenge but given that scripture was not cited in the attack is it anything more than an idiot revenge attack.

The killer of Lee rugby by contrast had in every pocket scraps of paper with scriptural justifications for his actions.

I think that's why one approach is labelled an Islamist terror attack and the other a hate crime.  

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19/06/2017 at 21:20

The clean shaven Christian (is he a Christian?) by contrast appears from protestations at the scene to be seeking revenge but given that scripture was not cited in the attack is it anything more than an idiot revenge attack.

You can't really get revenge on a suicide bomber, can you?

I suppose he was radicalised by the Mail and the Sun or on Twitter. The outpourings of hatred and filth on there is scary and he will feel he was carrying out the desires of a large number of people. He just wasn't very good a it, which is good. Hatred is no match for faith, however warped the faith may be.

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19/06/2017 at 22:42

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 19/06/2017 at 19:17


Nothing much...except one scripture justifies it in their holy book a few times and the other does so only once.

One religion is going through a literalist phase at the moment with many adherents thinking it is the literal word of god given to an illiterate goat herder and the other is a post enlightenment pragmatic flock not normally given to such excesses.

Apart from that the same - no doubt after a couple of decades we will see the proportion of violent acts show in the actual ratios or we could just use the wealth of historical data we have to point us towards what is likely to happen.



As you seem to be an expert in Islam perhaps you could point out when they managed to kill over 50,000 men, women and children instantly not once but twice.  

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19/06/2017 at 23:19

On that we will have to disagree - almost all faith by definition imbues it's adherents with hateful thoughts.
The principle one is that one is forever enslaved by a divine and all seeing celestial dictator that can convict you of thought crime and knows your inner most thoughts. That they almost all exclusively require spreading by the indoctrination of children the acceptance of their 'divine' wisdoms without any evidence and the presentation by men (it's mostly men) who otherwise the tribe would almost certainly convey no natural status on is more troubling than mere hate it's sinister in its systematic subjugation of others.

Sorry religion is a cancer from a more primitive time
That I had hoped we'd evolved from - I am saddened that just as we had seen the truth of its baloney that we appear to have unwittingly imported more Infantile strains only of use to backward societies.

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19/06/2017 at 23:26

This doesn't sit right with me.
The only person to hear him say that he "wanted to kill Muslims", was the Muslim that he surrendered to.

The same Muslim that said there was another 2 men sitting in the van with the assailant.

Some witnesses said he surrendered peacefully, the Muslim that apprehended him said he had to be restrained, hence why he beat him half to death.
If he wanted to "kill Muslims", why didn't he mount the kerb?
Why was the only Muslim he killed already lying on the ground, been given first aid for a coronary problem he'd suffered earlier?
I suspect it's nothing more than a drink driving incident, being used to fit the narrative of "White people are terroists too".

Anyway expect to lose the little freedom of speech we have left when posting online as a result.
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19/06/2017 at 23:34

No time wasted in declaring this incident a "terroist attack".

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Post edited on 19/06/2017 at 23:35 by ARIACWFAW

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