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essexgull

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11/06/2017 at 12:11

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 11/06/2017 at 12:05
Gully, you try to draw parallels between Islamic fundamentals and the Christian sectarianism of Ulster, one has been part of our history since before 1690 and the other is nothing to do with our culture or way of life.

I never saw Ian Paisley as an enemy of Britain.


Paisley spent the majority of his working life not wanting peace, but war. He recanted this in the last decade of his life. The vast majority of Britain wants peace.. so to promote and encourage civil war among British citizens made him an enemy of Britain.

Aside from you and a handful of football supporters from Burnley and Glasgow Rangers, the vast majority of Brits couldn't give a monkey's chuff what type of Christian religion each other follows.. as long as their families are safe.

His particular form of evangelicalism was pretty much anti-everything that the majority of English, from children to the elderly, believe. I'm amazed that a small handful including you were happy to ally with him. His preferred lifestyle wasn't that different from the Islamic one you now campaign against.


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11/06/2017 at 12:11

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 11/06/2017 at 12:05
Gully, you try to draw parallels between Islamic fundamentals and the Christian sectarianism of Ulster, one has been part of our history since before 1690 and the other is nothing to do with our culture or way of life.

I never saw Ian Paisley as an enemy of Britain.


You are happy to airbrush history, teddie. The treatment of the native Irish - as opposed to Protestants brought in as colonists - has been fucking abominable for centuries, rising to it's peak with the Famine. And as for Paisley, the bigoted cunt was an enemy of all humanity.

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11/06/2017 at 12:14

Quote Quote by candw on 11/06/2017 at 12:06
I'm not surprised, teddie. Keep the Taigs in their place, eh?

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As I've written several times on this thread, it's completely mental that the like of Ted, Bile and Sharon align themselves with these people who are as equally opposed to the English way of life as Islamists are.


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11/06/2017 at 12:18

Nothing wrong in upholding protestant values in a protestant country.  

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essexgull

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11/06/2017 at 12:24

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 11/06/2017 at 12:18
Nothing wrong in upholding protestant values in a protestant country.


A backwards Middle East religion infesting a corner of the UK, Ted old bean.

The values were never that important for a huge number of protestants until the likes of Paisley made them so and was supported by an idiotic, gullible intelligence service funding both sides for decades, until Major and Blair brought a stop to it.

Odd you declare yourself in support when you've lived your life in direct contravention of many of their doctrines.


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11/06/2017 at 18:47

Quote Quote by TedLloyd on 11/06/2017 at 12:18
Nothing wrong in upholding protestant values in a protestant country.

The island of Ireland is majority catholic, as it still will be when the North is part of the Republic, which is inevitable. Ireland
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11/06/2017 at 20:28

Quote Quote by essexgull on 11/06/2017 at 09:58


Are you genuinely stupid?

Corbyn was a mere 3000 votes in the right places from winning the election. If you can't see the sea change in generational opinion and a good result despite every mainstream media source being against him, you're deluded.

Under-35s just aren't voting Conservative. Over-65s just aren't voting Labour. The latter are the dwindling number for obvious reasons.


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Agreed Gull if people had voted differently, the result may well have been different. Your a bit of a simpleton really because Corbyn won so why are you posting saying he could have won?

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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11/06/2017 at 22:45

Strange readings on what can only go down as the most spectacularly HUGE fuck up by a serving PM ever.

Teresa May's strategy was the worse ever - as if just repeating "strong and stable" ad nausum would be enough.

JC Went from an inept and authority free leader to looking like champion of the many week on week. He was he one appearing at lock out rallies and making a big show of pace and numbers that led enough people to be able to think socialist again. May came across as the tough talking (only after the event) vicars daughter who wasn't allowed to play out after dark and never did anything real people do ever.

However....

As always the volume of the vote rather than pure seats tells the real story as both labour and the Tories gained votes. The fringe parties meanwhile lost big so...the only real story is we have become a genuine two party state again and at last you can put some air between labour and the conservatives. The irony of ironies is that the lunatic fringe (sorry ted the DUP are unreconstructed theocrats whose sell by date is long passed) are being used to save May's skin. If she was a REAL leader she would call it in with the British people and say, I can't work with this I am calling another election and you either "back me in numbers for the Brexit you want or you vote labour properly and put them in the seat with Brussels - you choose".

A coalition of chaos is what we have now got and we will be going nowhere fast on brexit except for fudge after fudge.

The youth vote meanwhile is hardly a surprise....Brexit was their wake-up call that a like on Facebook is not a vote and that the only party politican actually speaking to them was an outsider maverick who whatever he is looks less like a fake than all the rest.

As gull says their outlook is bleak, unless they realise they can create a job rather than ask for one and he Tories have missed creating an enterprise youth culture open goal as they have been transfixed by their doddery old membership base.

Most will as usual become more right wing as they age simply due to the fact that they learn about money and the way governments like to (mix) spend it but in the meantime they genuinely believe that corbzee has 'fresh' and 'new' ideas and many things. That might be incredulous to many of us but if you never lived through any kind of socialist government and were born after the Berlin Wall fell these ideas seem ground-breaking.

I predict a widening generational gap and if Momentum wills it street level protests that will kill this lashed up government in short order.

Interesting times (for a change) 

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12/06/2017 at 11:34

Most will as usual become more right wing as they age simply due to the fact that they learn about money and the way governments like to (mix) spend it but in the meantime they genuinely believe that corbzee has 'fresh' and 'new' ideas and many things. That might be incredulous to many of us but if you never lived through any kind of socialist government and were born after the Berlin Wall fell these ideas seem ground-breaking.

Oh dear, how quaint! How condescending! And from a man who's delighted to be back in an age when we were our own masters and our buccaneers sailed the seas to enrich our majesties and our realm - only with no colonies to loot.

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13/06/2017 at 15:09

Typical - jokey response of ridicule when faced with sensible post.

A no comment would have been enough... 

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13/06/2017 at 15:29

Sensible post? Fuck off! You're a grown up now, are you? Came to your senses? Lots of other grown ups came to totally different realities, as equally valid as yours, or more so. Sneering and sensible both start with the same letter, perhaps that's how you got them mixed up?

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13/06/2017 at 17:21

What part was 'sneering' in my post...?

You do know that 50% of how you 'read' communication is your interpretation of it... 

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13/06/2017 at 18:41

The whole paragraph about them not knowing what the real world is all about, but you do. 

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14/06/2017 at 01:29

It's called age and wisdom in most other cultures and those not suffering from arrested development... 

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14/06/2017 at 07:53

Quote Quote by essexgull on 11/06/2017 at 09:58


Are you genuinely stupid?

Corbyn was a mere 3000 votes in the right places from winning the election. If you can't see the sea change in generational opinion and a good result despite every mainstream media source being against him, you're deluded.

Under-35s just aren't voting Conservative. Over-65s just aren't voting Labour. The latter are the dwindling number for obvious reasons.


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Yes, but as the younger ones grow up and mature they will see sense and change their views. What Clemenceau said regarding this still holds true. 

2005 Labour got 355 seats from 35.2 % of the vote on a 62.4% turnout. 2015 Tories got 331 seats from 36.9% of the vote on a 661% turnout. Left wing fannies moan the second one is sooooo unfair and we need electoral reform. But didn't utter a peep,about the first one. 

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