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charon-the-ferryman

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07/06/2017 at 16:06

Quote Quote by candw on 07/06/2017 at 14:26
Nice effort. You make your own assumptions about what was said and then deny those assumptions. You deny that cuts to police and security services are anything to do with acts of terror and that bombing attacks by our country on Libya, Syria etc play no part in stirring terrorism. You ignore 'talk big May' who has stopped one terror suspect coming back to the country and whose people ignored someone flagged by the Italians as a definite suspect. Corbyn has voted against measures he feels will exacerbate problems, but has supported measures that he thinks effective. I know you like politicians who always vote 'the right way; the Politburo used to expect the same level of support from their Deputies.

What I am pleased about is you showing your true, blue colours and making no further pretence not to be a Tory. You're happy to vote for proven failure, shown by May and her cronies, despite being a Labour man at heart. I'm pretty sure that heart is not the word I need.


conveniently forgetting 2005 bombings, was that due to bombing Libya or cuts in police, was that May's fault, conveniently forgets bombing Iraq, was that those bastards the Tories, conveniently forgets Corbyn inviting terrorists into Parliament and giving them oxygen, conveniently forgets Corbyn was against giving police guns and so on and so on - we have a real problem with Islamist extremism and now Corbyn gives them an excuse by telling them its our fault - were we supposed to watch whilst the leaders of Syria and Iraq committed genocide against their own people - I appreciate Corbyn thinks he can solve all the worlds problems and secure multilateral nuclear disarmament over a scone and a cup of latte, but in the real world its a little bit more complicated than that 

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candw

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07/06/2017 at 16:08

Bit long for you? I'll copy and paste it in short chunks for you. I know how challenged some people can be by more than a single sentence.

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Dr Victor Ehrlich

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07/06/2017 at 19:18

Granadaman posted:

"Sadiq is a cunt for not calling out extreme islamism and for telling us this is the new 'normal'. "

Sadiq Khan said:

"Sadiq Khan has said the London Bridge attackers do not speak for Muslims, telling a vigil to those killed: “Not in my name”.
Khan, the first elected Muslim mayor of a European city, called the three men who killed seven people and injured 48 in their rampage on Saturday “sick and evil” as he addressed the vigil in Potters Field Park."

Most fair-minded people will conclude who the cunt is here, 'other' cunts will revert to their usual myopia. ScotlandDiamonds 9




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exiled CITY AFC

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07/06/2017 at 19:26

He won't call out Islamism or Islamic extremism

If you knew about the holy comic book or Mohamed (reason be upon him) you'd know why that is important and why even 'mainstream muslims' can't bring themselves to say it.

Do the research, read the book then come back when informed.  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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Dr Victor Ehrlich

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07/06/2017 at 20:28

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 07/06/2017 at 19:26
He won't call out Islamism or Islamic extremism

If you knew about the holy comic book or Mohamed (reason be upon him) you'd know why that is important and why even 'mainstream muslims' can't bring themselves to say it.

Do the research, read the book then come back when informed.


BallsCrap
Read his comments and visit an optician. ScotlandDiamonds 9
Here's some two year old comments from that well known left-wing rag The Telegraph:
British Muslims must “tackle extremism”.
We must stop tolerating “social segregation”.
“For too long we have buried our heads in the sand” about the growth of extremism among young Muslims in our country.
No, not the words of Ukip's Nigel Farage but of Labour’s London Mayoral candidate, Sadiq Khan, speaking today at a Westminster lunch.
Mr Khan, a Muslim born in London to Pakistani immigrants, is one of the very few politicians in mainstream politics who is brave enough to speak the truth about the ever growing issues facing Britain’s Muslim population.
As Mr Khan said: “Too many British Muslims grow up without really knowing anyone from a different background. We’ve protected people’s right to live their cultural life at the expense of creating a common life.”
Huge numbers of British Muslims are concentrated in distinct neighbourhoods, often living with, going to school with, working with, befriending and marrying only other Muslims. “This,” as Mr Khan so rightly pointed out, “creates the conditions for extremism and radicalisation to take hold.”
Of course, being a Muslim himself, Mr Khan is automatically exempt from the usual barrage of cries of “racist” and “Islamophobe” from the liberal thought police.
Yet it is nevertheless a courageous politician who dares to point out what is blatantly obvious to the rest of us – but which our elected representatives are mostly too timid to admit.
Yes, as Mr Khan said, British Muslims “have a special role to play in tackling extremism”. As he says, that’s not because they – simply by virtue of sharing the same religion as the terrorists – are any more responsible for terror attacks than non-Muslims, but because they can be “more effective” at tackling that extremism.
Britain’s extremist Islamists, after all, are not coming from ordinary Christian, Sikh, Hindu, Jewish or atheist backgrounds. They are coming from ordinary Muslim families, they have Muslim friends and they live in largely Muslim neighbourhoods. Worra cunt, with cuntish views ! 

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exiled CITY AFC

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08/06/2017 at 03:24

FFS What part of this are you NOT getting.

The problem is intrinsic in the very words of the holy book.

It calls for sharia to replace democracy, it claims to be the final solution in religion, it suggests death for those who don't take the religion.

He cannot say 'Islamic extremism' or Islamism because he knows that puts him on a theological collision course with his own faith. So he knows what to say to stay on the right side of his faith masters whilst pretending their is no inherent conflict with our democracy.

Articles like the one you link and copy to mean fuck all to me because just like Obama and Clinton before him he will keep side-stepping the fundamental issues that put Islam on a collision course with the west. Until then He says this is normal living in a big city - until of course we are all concerted then the sharia will sort it all out (not).

Ask him about his beliefs on apostates, sharia, halal, the long term aim for Islamic theocracy and see what his position is.

As I say report back when you have actuall read the book, tested the beliefs of so-called 'moderate' Muslims then you will know why this shit is vitally important for the future of our nation and culture.

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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08/06/2017 at 07:44

Fucking hell, exiled, have you read the Qu'ran? Cover to cover? More than once? Know it off by heart? And the only future is outright war, winner takes all? I can't be arsed to vote today, then. Not worth it. Comic book, eh? Don't forget, stop worrying. THE RAPTURE.

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08/06/2017 at 12:49

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looks like she's better already, maybe her understudy should step aside and give Abbott her job back 

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08/06/2017 at 13:42

Quote Quote by candw on 08/06/2017 at 07:44
Fucking hell, exiled, have you read the Qu'ran? Cover to cover? More than once? Know it off by heart? And the only future is outright war, winner takes all? I can't be arsed to vote today, then. Not worth it. Comic book, eh? Don't forget, stop worrying. THE RAPTURE.


Yes I have - twice now and the various leaflets that came with mine.

The level of ignorance about this religion even amongst its adherents is astounding.

It is clear that we are dealing with widespread ignorance more than the religion itself especially by so-called intellectuals who are unwittingly adding to the problem.

It is time to stop coming up with excuses and historic parallels for this stuff.

It's our fault just doesn't wash especially when you compare the attacks in countries that don't have bad foreign policies or historic blood on their hands. It's also fucking lazy idiots who shout 'racist' or equally 'you ain't no Muslim Bruv'.

Islamophobia is new invented word meaning an irrationalfear of Islam

What do we call a rational fear of Islamism and Islamist ideology (these are also mainstream tenets of the religion)?

Get informed 

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08/06/2017 at 13:58

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looks like she's better already, maybe her understudy should step aside and give Abbott her job back


Fuck me her and her mate don't need a food bank, maybe a gym though. 

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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08/06/2017 at 14:52

So could you, Peri old bean.


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08/06/2017 at 14:57

Agreed.

Fuck the short term we will build a 1000 year Hull City Reich 

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08/06/2017 at 15:04

Quote Quote by charon-the-ferryman on 08/06/2017 at 12:49
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looks like she's better already, maybe her understudy should step aside and give Abbott her job back


So the mental and physical strain on you, in your job, is equivalent to putting a cross on a piece of paper? Is that for a day, or a whole week? Or longer?

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08/06/2017 at 15:06

Give me a rough idea, exiled, of when, in modern times, Islam became a militant religion?

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08/06/2017 at 18:54

The split between the sonny and chers is ancient and one that began in the power vacuum that occurred when Mohammed (reason be upon him) shuffled off his coil. The religion has basically tracked various political see-saws of the Middle East - it would do as it as much a political manual as holy book. The religion has then oscillated from literalists (normally the ones doing the jihadi / convert or die thing and war-Mongering) to more secular leaning. The best thing to gauge where your Islam is at is look that the extent of female covering.
The muslims do an amazing job of killing each other throughout the ages. Equally their persecution and intolerance of others is up there with the best. Ask the Sikh's. They are spectacularly good at using the victim card throughout history and are quick to point out the worst of western culture and how sharia will solve everything without ever pointing to the ills of Muslim theocracies. It is an intellectual dead end to suggest this stuff is our fault because although we have removed dictators, sought to install democracy etc etc these people equally hate those who haven't done any of that.

Whilst for those who think they are educated it is seemingly enlightening to say that Christianity has also had a bloody past, etc. That's like suggesting Africans should buy traditional phones before they can have cellular.

I am amazed at how many left leaning people want to 'educate' others about the religion of peace without knowing anything about it themselves. It's like the middle class twat you meet on holiday, has been to a place once before and is suddenly a fucking expert.

The quick answer to your question is: throughout its long and bloody history.

The problem isn't going away it's getting worse.  

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