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imperishablehcfc

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19/05/2017 at 16:12

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree /2017/may/18/brexit-devastated-me-but-now -i-back-the-tories-re-leavers-on-how-they -will-vote?CMP=fb_gu

Ironic that the undemocratic left have driven people, to vote Tory 

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19/05/2017 at 20:24

You're entitled to be whatever you want, Peri old bean, but the article doesn't really make sense.

If you thought Remain was the right decision for the UK, why would Jeremy Corbyn propositioning that the UK should have a better funded national health care system and nationalised public works make you change your mind to think that Leaving the EU is the right choice now?

The EU is inherently against nationalisation of industries and encourages privatisation.. so surely Corbyn's stance would make you be more pro-Remain.

Or are you really that sensitive that reading what a few high-profile media commentators say about your Leaver mates makes you feel that you've got to do a 180 degree about-turn in your opinion to support them through the criticism?


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19/05/2017 at 20:56

Theresa May’s party is picking up the backing of more than 60% because they believe in the party’s plans for Brexit.

Brexit means Brexit. No deal is better than a bad deal.

What a plan to sway the non-believers, giving up their long-held beliefs for that? Fuck me, talk about politically illiterate!

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19/05/2017 at 22:30

Read many a similar article and what appears to be swaying people is the remoaners not accepting the referendum result and actively siding with the EU to the detriment of the UK. Nothing to do with what commentators say about anyone just the wankers that wont accept the democratic result 

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19/05/2017 at 22:34

So why is it that the Labour leader is not picking up those votes? Like May he was a Remainer and has said that we must accept the result of the referendum.

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19/05/2017 at 22:51

Do Labour have a 'leader'? 

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20/05/2017 at 06:34

Quote Quote by imperishablehcfc on 19/05/2017 at 22:30
Read many a similar article and what appears to be swaying people is the remoaners not accepting the referendum result and actively siding with the EU to the detriment of the UK. Nothing to do with what commentators say about anyone just the wankers that wont accept the democratic result


Corbyn's Labour/the undemocratic left voted for Section 50 to be issued and he has said on several occasions that he accepts the result of Brexit, but wants a softer compromise departure than what May is going for.

As Labour and the Conservatives offer quite alternative futures for the UK, it seems strange to go from one to the other, because Gina Miller and Richard Branson have launched two legal challenges.

As both Miller and Branson are extremely wealthy from finance, commerce and trade, I doubt either are Left or Corbyn supporters anyway.


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20/05/2017 at 06:42

As an aside, if anything, I've gone in the other direction.

I wasn't entirely against the idea of leaving, if it was done properly and cleverly.

May and the Conservatives plan to pay for the departure, by screwing over less well-off pensioners and punishing the children of poor people by starving them, whilst continually cutting taxes for business and the wealthier, has made me wish that I had voted and voted for Remain.


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20/05/2017 at 08:35

Quote Quote by imperishablehcfc on 19/05/2017 at 22:51
Do Labour have a 'leader'?


'Yes'. 'Now answer the question.'

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20/05/2017 at 10:47

Quote Quote by essexgull on 20/05/2017 at 06:34


Corbyn's Labour/the undemocratic left voted for Section 50 to be issued and he has said on several occasions that he accepts the result of Brexit, but wants a softer compromise departure than what May is going for.

As Labour and the Conservatives offer quite alternative futures for the UK, it seems strange to go from one to the other, because Gina Miller and Richard Branson have launched two legal challenges.

As both Miller and Branson are extremely wealthy from finance, commerce and trade, I doubt either are Left or Corbyn supporters anyway.


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Agreed it would be very strange if anyone moved from one side to the other for that reason 

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20/05/2017 at 10:48

Quote Quote by candw on 20/05/2017 at 08:35


'Yes'. 'Now answer the question.'


Nearly right, try again 

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20/05/2017 at 20:25

The article was complete crap to start with, and the revised version is still crap. Stating that the 16% prepared to accept the democratic outcome of the vote have become "supporters" is the kind of idiocy some journalists try to pass off as journalism. It's not, it's lying.

No idea what that allegation of Labour being undemocratic is supposed to mean. Totally random allegation.

Clearly the supporters of Labour's Tory-wannabe Blairite shites are also wannabe Tories. To hell with them, but it's nothing to do with the Labour party being undemocratic. If the Tories are re-elected, as they will be, those that have changed sides will, along with those that haven't, soon come to regret it.  

Post edited on 20/05/2017 at 20:35 by theotherphantom

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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20/05/2017 at 20:37

This bloke is stupid beyond belief. Utterly moronic fuckwit.

"Matt, 27, Somerset: The Conservatives are the only party ready to fight
Voted Liberal Democrat in the 2015 general election. Voting Conservative

The Labour party seems nice but very weak – I think it would leave British people defenceless. Labour is not strong enough to stand up for our country against Europe. I didn’t want to leave Europe – but now we are, and my country comes before a party every time. I decided last year that the Conservatives are the only party ready to fight. The NHS, education, housing, and so on are all secondary points to what is basically a national crisis."

Some times I feel people like him should get their way just to show them how wrong they are. His IQ probably doesn't make double figures. He probably has trouble operating door handles and taps. 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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20/05/2017 at 21:07

I posted another thing more than 5 seconds after that one, but the software said it wasn't, and it lost what I'd tried to post. I can't be bothered. 

>>>>> 12th season in exile <<<<< 

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20/05/2017 at 21:17

...the Conservatives are the only party ready to fight.

He must be referring to Gibraltar and Theresa May's willingness to use our Tridents as a first strike weapon against any Spanish aggression. I hope Sir Michael will take into account that the prevailing winds are from the southwest.

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