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candw

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14/03/2017 at 19:07

Aren't we?

SOMEONE ACTUALLY WROTE THIS:Yes,I can see them deciding to fly planes into buildings in a country which didn't exist at the time of the fall of Jerusalem centies later because of the 70,000 killed then.  

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exiled CITY AFC

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14/03/2017 at 22:37

We seem to have a generation of really really shit parents who can't even sort the basics out for the kids they have...

It takes a couple to create a baby and also one to raise a kid IMHO.

Way too many single parents

Technically we are an almost bankrupt country but we are using borwoing to make it looks live we are still a player.... 

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candw

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15/03/2017 at 07:40

We're handing out £billions in benefits to industry, tax breaks etc still. The poor are paying for our bankruptcy.

SOMEONE ACTUALLY WROTE THIS:Yes,I can see them deciding to fly planes into buildings in a country which didn't exist at the time of the fall of Jerusalem centies later because of the 70,000 killed then.  

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15/03/2017 at 07:42

Shows what can be done with commitment. And data.

SOMEONE ACTUALLY WROTE THIS:Yes,I can see them deciding to fly planes into buildings in a country which didn't exist at the time of the fall of Jerusalem centies later because of the 70,000 killed then.  

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15/03/2017 at 08:11

Quote Quote by exiled CITY AFC on 14/03/2017 at 22:37

Technically we are an almost bankrupt country but we are using borwoing to make it looks live we are still a player....


What do you mean by this?

Do you mean the cost of servicing the debt? Despite the hugely increased debt, the costs of servicing it are cheaper than any time before, due to historically low interest rates - the UK was far more 'bankrupt' post WW2 up to 2000, regarding lack of available capital.

The issue the UK has is pervading austerity of pubic services that is cutting growth prospects across the board long-term - it's that obvious. Using candw's link, if you refuse to fund a girl in poverty's sanitary wear (which overall cost is tiny) so that she misses school, she is more likely to fall-out the system, not gain qualifications and spend a life in repetitive poverty needing a life time of public help... all to save relative pennies in the short-term.

It's obscene that certain politicians and people like you are demanding cuts to tax rates to stimulate growth in the private sector (which hasn't actually happened the past 15 years of corporation tax cuts), yet also propose starving the most impoverished of basic care, claiming this will stimulate them to work more... two complete opposites.



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15/03/2017 at 12:43

Quote Quote by candw on 15/03/2017 at 07:42
Shows what can be done with commitment. And data.


Agreed - targets were set and as a soon as the data went off track inverventions and countermeasures were applied.

Great example of where long term commitment and multi-agency work works.

Credit where it's due.

Now let's half it again and again until it's zero unwanted teenage pregnancies.

Great example of where targets are good... 

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15/03/2017 at 12:45

Quote Quote by essexgull on 15/03/2017 at 08:11


What do you mean by this?

Do you mean the cost of servicing the debt? Despite the hugely increased debt, the costs of servicing it are cheaper than any time before, due to historically low interest rates - the UK was far more 'bankrupt' post WW2 up to 2000, regarding lack of available capital.

The issue the UK has is pervading austerity of pubic services that is cutting growth prospects across the board long-term - it's that obvious. Using candw's link, if you refuse to fund a girl in poverty's sanitary wear (which overall cost is tiny) so that she misses school, she is more likely to fall-out the system, not gain qualifications and spend a life in repetitive poverty needing a life time of public help... all to save relative pennies in the short-term.

It's obscene that certain politicians and people like you are demanding cuts to tax rates to stimulate growth in the private sector (which hasn't actually happened the past 15 years of corporation tax cuts), yet also propose starving the most impoverished of basic care, claiming this will stimulate them to work more... two complete opposites.



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Point to my obscene post asking for tax cuts?

I want waste cuts not tax cuts...you have no clue about my position on tax yet presume to put words in my mouth.

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candw

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15/03/2017 at 13:15

Blimey, I'd have had a bob or two that you want direct taxes to be as low as possible. Another losing bet? Still, it was only between me and my keyboard, so no problem.

SOMEONE ACTUALLY WROTE THIS:Yes,I can see them deciding to fly planes into buildings in a country which didn't exist at the time of the fall of Jerusalem centies later because of the 70,000 killed then.  

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15/03/2017 at 16:25

No want direct taxes to be levied for things that we need for a civilised society but want anything done with that money to be free from waste.

Dead simple want it spent like you would if it was your own money.  

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15/03/2017 at 16:44

I'm still reeling on how influenced and in fear the British Tory Government are of the right wing press...

One fairly reasonable policy to require the self-employed to pay their fair share of National Insurance and after a week of a campaign by the Sun and Mail, they've u-turned. Astounding weakness.

So much for the British public getting back control... You've got f-all control.


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15/03/2017 at 16:50

Fair share!?!! - they don't enjoy the same benefits of their employed bretheren and many are employing people themselves so paying their dibs too. It's classic of this government and others before to see a symptom and make up a response to it that they don't even think through. I think it's the modern media curse that started with Alastair Campbell about being the story rather than playing catch up which still pervades politics for the party in power.

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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15/03/2017 at 17:38

They get pension and healthcare?

Everyone who spends money employs someone, whether they're self-employed or not. It's just that a salaried worker can't get their broadband subscription paid before their tax is first.


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16/03/2017 at 09:17

No sick pay, no holiday pay, no equipment, tools, etc.

They get state pension but no work based pension and yes they can go to the NHS when they are not working and therefore losing money by the hour...

Try it then comment  

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16/03/2017 at 09:26

I've been self-employed and a company owner for over a decade.


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16/03/2017 at 13:36

In that case you know everything you need to know and how much you hold back in your increasingly selective posts.  

Let it never be said that I was silent when they needed me - William Wilberforce 

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